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    TrumpCare Update

    Still dead.

    As Latest Health Plan Dies, Republicans Canít Agree on a Culprit


    Last month, a House Republican bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act failed to get enough support to bring it to a vote. About 30 of the most conservative members of the House rejected the bill as preserving too much of the existing law, but as they pressed to dismantle ever more provisions, they pushed away more moderate House Republicans who were leery of leaving 24 million more Americans without health insurance.

    The effort was left for dead, until Vice President Mike Pence and other Trump administration officials raced up to the Capitol this week to cobble together a new agreement with the most conservative Republicans, the House Freedom Caucus. The revived measure, stirring in its grave, was known informally on Capitol Hill as Zombie Trumpcare.

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    Republicans are losing so much. Are they sick of losing yet?
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    They're in a paradox of their Ideology vs. Reality.

    The Far FAR Right want Obamacare totally scrapped and being from safe gerrymandered Red Districts ...do not care if it throws millions off their insurance.

    The "Saner" Republicans in Purple Districts know a draconian bill will cost them their seats in 2018....that's both House Reps and GOP Senators.


    Meanwhile, Trump is DESPERATE for a "win"...any win. But he can't create a bill that will pass the House over the objections of the Far FAR Right...

    unless he cuts a deal with Democrats, which would anger his own Base.




    So....nothing happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    They're in a paradox of their Ideology vs. Reality.

    The Far FAR Right want Obamacare totally scrapped and being from safe gerrymandered Red Districts ...do not care if it throws millions off their insurance.

    The "Saner" Republicans in Purple Districts know a draconian bill will cost them their seats in 2018....that's both House Reps and GOP Senators.


    Meanwhile, Trump is DESPERATE for a "win"...any win. But he can't create a bill that will pass the House over the objections of the Far FAR Right...

    unless he cuts a deal with Democrats, which would anger his own Base.




    So....nothing happens.
    I don't really believe that he could cut a deal with Democrats either. He doesn't understand the underlying issues and, as it turns out, he's not a very highly skilled negotiator.

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    Trump=Paul Ryan=Ran Paul=House Republicans=going home for Easter break for 2 weeks=played with Heath Care Bill trying to make it seem it is still on the table to calm down constituents and fool them. Repeal of ObamaCare is Dead and Replace is impossible as Trump and Republicans lied they had nothing to replace it with and don't know how to fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Trump=Paul Ryan=Ran Paul=House Republicans=going home for Easter break for 2 weeks=played with Heath Care Bill trying to make it seem it is still on the table to calm down constituents and fool them. Repeal of ObamaCare is Dead and Replace is impossible as Trump and Republicans lied they had nothing to replace it with and don't know how to fix it.
    It's no so much that they don't know how to fix it. The problem lies in the fact that they don't want to fix it. They want to destroy it.

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    I really thought that Trump and Rand Paul cooked up a deal so that the Freedom Caucus gets major cuts in the funding bill coming and Trump would get FC and Senate support for Trumpcare cuts and passage.

    That could have been the case, but the GOP 'Tuesday Group' hit the brakes. IMO. ...I don't know. Who can figure out these whack jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    It's no so much that they don't know how to fix it. The problem lies in the fact that they don't want to fix it. They want to destroy it.
    They don't know how to fix it and keep everybody they lied to happy. In the same mouth full they said they would scrap all together. Then to the same voters promised to it make it better, cheaper, cover more and get the government out of it. IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE ONE AND ALSO THE OTHER. The Republicans because of who they are, and the split personality of the party now, will never be able to fix it and/or scrap it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    It's no so much that they don't know how to fix it. The problem lies in the fact that they don't want to fix it. They want to destroy it.
    Gordo had "Ideology vs Reality"... GOP ideology says no federal participation. GOP reality...people need government to work.

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