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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    As I understand it, rich swedes get "free" child care, "free" education for their children, and "free" health care, right along with less well off Swedes. They are not pitting one class against another.
    Let's do the same here. "Free" child care for working parents, "free" education once they reach that age, and "free" health care for them too, no matter how rich their parents are. I'd go along with it.

    And if anyone is worried how ever we would pay for it, well, we start by reforming senior entitlements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    What does HHS have to do with the diets of poor people? (SNAP is a program in the Farm Bill, run out of the Department of Agriculture, if that's what you're going after.)
    Really? you have to ask me this.

    1. Food stamps program is managed by HHS
    2. Welfare is managed by HHS
    3. WIC is managed by HHS

    SNAP is funded by DOA... but the benefits are managed and delivered by HHS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    The same, my Black Cousin worked beside me, he is a Nurse Anethisis, I am a Medical Technologis, we went to the same undergraduate school. he chose a different path post graduate. He earns a much greater salary than me.

    Now, why do you believe that BLACK PEOPLE cannot make it without your help, Do you think they are Stupid, or do you think they are lazy, or do you think they can only mooch on welfare..

    But then again we forgive you, you are a Liberal and don't know anybetter.

    the only difference in he and I, My Father had horses to pull the wagons and plows, his dad had mules
    I am telling you the DECK was stacked. I'm telling you there was no DECK to play from for MOST blacks until I myself was approaching adulthood. The FEDs might have hired them, but there were no black school teachers, cops, county employees, nurses, doctors AND there were damn few career military, the community I was raised in. I'm telling you 'making it out' was a statistical hurdle. Especially in the South.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    I am telling you the DECK was stacked. I'm telling you there was no DECK to play from for MOST blacks until I myself was approaching adulthood. The FEDs might have hired them, but there were no black school teachers, cops, county employees and damn few career military--I was raised on bases. I'm telling you 'making it out' was a statistical hurdle. Especially in the South.
    The Deck is stacked against everyone, only X not everyone is going to strike it rich.

    Does not matter if you are black white Asian or Native American.

    Every kid that steps onto a Little League field dreams of being in the Big League.. only a very very minute number will make it.

    it is called life. My Grandfather became a wealthy black man when he sold is 3 grocery stores to IGA when he Retired..

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Health insurance system – the most expensive in the world – is worsening situation, researchers find, arguing healthcare should be treated as human right

    Jessica Glenza in New York
    Thursday 6 April 2017 18.33 EDT

    You can’t buy time – except, it seems, in America.

    Increasing inequality means wealthy Americans can now expect to live up to 15 years longer than their poor counterparts, reports in the British medical journal the Lancet have found.

    Researchers said these disparities appear to be worsened by the American health system itself, which relies on for-profit insurance companies, and is the most expensive in the world.

    Their conclusion? Treat healthcare as a human right.

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    The Lancet studies looked at how the American health system affects inequality and structural racism, and how mass incarceration and the Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare, have changed public health.

    Among the studies’ key findings: the richest 1% live up to 15 years longer than the poorest 1%; the same gap in life expectancy widened in recent decades, making poverty a powerful indicator for death; more than one-third of low-income Americans avoid medical care because of costs (compared to 7% in Canada and 1% in the UK); the poorest fifth of Americans pay twice as much for healthcare as a share of income (6% for the poor, versus 3.2% for the rich); and life expectancy would have grown 51.1% more from 1983 to 2005 had mass incarceration not accelerated in the mid-1980s.

    The poorest Americans have suffered in particular, with life expectancies falling in some groups even while medicine has advanced.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ality-lifespan
    of course they do, and with my high level of income and advances in medical science I expect to live to at least 200, maybe 250.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Actually you have been brainwashed into supporting the "System" I believe the system has a major flaw, the system is like the hotel CA, you check into the system, and it is VERY difficult to check out. The person takes a Entery level job at minimum wage.. they gain experience they become a floor manager, Shift manager, Supervisor.

    or they stay on welfare, Receiving a check from the government that is a below poverty level income.. and a VAST VAST majority never ever get out of the system, because the system made that way.

    You are promoting generational poverty.

    You gauge compassion and success by the number of people on welfare, I gauge compassion and success by the number of people that no longer NEED WEALFARE
    You seem to be talking to some other person. Check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    They are motivated enough to show up and work to make a profit for someone. For that they deserve respect, and a decent life.
    Ms. Labrea,

    If they had a decent job in a career field that people respect, they would get both respect and a decent life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms. Labrea,

    If they had a decent job in a career field that people respect, they would get both respect and a decent life.
    Wow. You mean jobs that don't pay well aren't respectable, and you don't respect people on those fields? If someone works hard all their life cleaning your office for minimum wage or just a bit more, they don't deserve your respect?

    We've come to expect this sort of disrespect for others from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Wow. You mean jobs that don't pay well aren't respectable, and you don't respect people on those fields? If someone works hard all their life cleaning your office for minimum wage or just a bit more, they don't deserve your respect?

    We've come to expect this sort of disrespect for others from you.
    Mr. Rasselas,

    Yeah, pretty much so. If they spent their entire lives cleaning offices and only are still only earning minimum wages, their lack of motivation and skills is not something to respect nor admire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Rasselas,

    Yeah, pretty much so. If they spent their entire lives cleaning offices and only are still only earning minimum wages, their lack of motivation and skills is not something to respect nor admire.
    That's despicable. If you think that a lack of motivation is the only thing keeping people back, you're obtuse and clueless about the human condition beyond yourself. You don't really understand the concept of honest labor, and THAT deserves no respect.

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