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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    That's despicable. If you think that a lack of motivation is the only thing keeping people back, you're obtuse and clueless about the human condition beyond yourself. You don't really understand the concept of honest labor, and THAT deserves no respect.
    Mr. Rasselas,

    How so is it despicable? Please, spare me your self righteous indignation. I mean one can appreciate that they work hard, and that they may have other virtues in their lives, but their career choices are not one of them.

    And if you had listened to anything I have posted lack of motivation is not the only thing keeping people back. Making poor life choices is often equally as toxic to where one ends up in life as someone's lack of motivation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Let's do the same here. "Free" child care for working parents, "free" education once they reach that age, and "free" health care for them too, no matter how rich their parents are. I'd go along with it.

    And if anyone is worried how ever we would pay for it, well, we start by reforming senior entitlements.
    No, we put in a massive inheritance tax and clean out those seniors after they die, or do you want them to suffer while they are still alive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Rasselas,

    How so is it despicable? Please, spare me your self righteous indignation. I mean one can appreciate that they work hard, and that they may have other virtues in their lives, but their career choices are not one of them.
    There's nothing SELFrighteous about what I've written--I'm not pretending to be better than anyone. You have no knowledge of others who do not share your intelligence, or family background, or educational opportunity, or any other qualities that are given to us rather than earned. Many people do not share in the largesse of ability or preparation that some of us have been blessed with. Such people do not have a myriad of career choices.

    And if you had listened to anything I have posted lack of motivation is not the only thing keeping people back. Making poor life choices is often equally as toxic to where one ends up in life as someone's lack of motivation.
    And that's nonsense. It assumes that all people are equal--not in the eyes of the law but in actual fact. They are not. No amount of self-righteous justification your part will make them so. I admire people for what they do with what they got. I don't assume that everyone shares the privileges I've been blessed with, nor do I hold a sense of entitlement to those blessings. You appear to. All the time. Everything about your posts--their tone, their content, and your choice of topics--are all filled with derision, and they make you a bully--albeit a passive-aggressive one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    There's nothing SELFrighteous about what I've written--I'm not pretending to be better than anyone. You have no knowledge of others who do not share your intelligence, or family background, or educational opportunity, or any other qualities that are given to us rather than earned. Many people do not share in the largesse of ability or preparation that some of us have been blessed with. Such people do not have a myriad of career choices.

    And that's nonsense. It assumes that all people are equal--not in the eyes of the law but in actual fact. They are not. No amount of self-righteous justification your part will make them so. I admire people for what they do with what they got. I don't assume that everyone shares the privileges I've been blessed with, nor do I hold a sense of entitlement to those blessings. You appear to. All the time. Everything about your posts--their tone, their content, and your choice of topics--are all filled with derision, and they make you a bully--albeit a passive-aggressive one.
    Mr. Rasselas,

    Once again, spare me your self righteous indignation. Maybe you should look up the definition of self-righteous indignation. Go ahead, I'll wait. Calling me "despicable" by definition means you pretend to think you are better than I.

    But getting back to the argument, just because you think that only you have the knowledge of others while all others must be ignorant, it does not make it true. I have not now in this thread, nor ever, assumed that all people are equal and that they are given the same tools. It's not the tools they are given, but rather, what they do with those tools.

    The funny thing is, you hit the nail right on the head by saying "I admire (funny you didn't say respect, which appeared to be the crux of your discussion) people for what they do with what they got." That is exactly the point. Using your example, if someone may or may not have started out with little, and after working all their life (your example, not mine) they are still working minimum wage, you may admire them, but I just think it is sad.

    Nothing derisive about what I said, nothing bullying, but rather, solely a statement of fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    Poorer people DO take more "risky" jobs as to the long-term consequences...

    Hard work wears a body down before it's time... back problems, repetitive motion injuries, stress...

    Jobs that wear out both the body and the soul.

    Thx
    Don't forget BLACK LUNG, asbestosis, cancer..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnvolunteer73 View Post
    republicans did not kill obama legislation the democrat senate did.. The repubican house took most of obama's proposals debated amended them where they felt they needed amending, passed them and sent them to the senate.. It was harry reid that refused to allow votes on the proposals.

    So please don't blame republicans because obama was weak and could not get his party to take action.

    The house passed budgets every year.. It was the senate that did not pass a budger for 2011,12,13,14,
    alternate facts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    The same, my Black Cousin worked beside me, he is a Nurse Anethisis, I am a Medical Technologis, we went to the same undergraduate school. he chose a different path post graduate. He earns a much greater salary than me.

    Now, why do you believe that BLACK PEOPLE cannot make it without your help, Do you think they are Stupid, or do you think they are lazy, or do you think they can only mooch on welfare..

    But then again we forgive you, you are a Liberal and don't know anybetter.

    the only difference in he and I, My Father had horses to pull the wagons and plows, his dad had mules
    Ms. Volunteer,

    Interesting, I was watching "Taste of History" the other day. Chef Staib was at Mount Vernon. Turns out it was George Washington who introduced mules to the United States. The problem was to get the donkeys to make the mules as the countries that had them didn't want to give them up. He finally convinced the king of Spain to gift him some donkeys, then after he made him a bunch of mules, he went up and down the southern states promoting their abilities.

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