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    Rich Americans live up to 15 years longer than poor peers, studies find

    Health insurance system – the most expensive in the world – is worsening situation, researchers find, arguing healthcare should be treated as human right

    Jessica Glenza in New York
    Thursday 6 April 2017 18.33 EDT

    You can’t buy time – except, it seems, in America.

    Increasing inequality means wealthy Americans can now expect to live up to 15 years longer than their poor counterparts, reports in the British medical journal the Lancet have found.

    Researchers said these disparities appear to be worsened by the American health system itself, which relies on for-profit insurance companies, and is the most expensive in the world.

    Their conclusion? Treat healthcare as a human right.

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    The Lancet studies looked at how the American health system affects inequality and structural racism, and how mass incarceration and the Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare, have changed public health.

    Among the studies’ key findings: the richest 1% live up to 15 years longer than the poorest 1%; the same gap in life expectancy widened in recent decades, making poverty a powerful indicator for death; more than one-third of low-income Americans avoid medical care because of costs (compared to 7% in Canada and 1% in the UK); the poorest fifth of Americans pay twice as much for healthcare as a share of income (6% for the poor, versus 3.2% for the rich); and life expectancy would have grown 51.1% more from 1983 to 2005 had mass incarceration not accelerated in the mid-1980s.

    The poorest Americans have suffered in particular, with life expectancies falling in some groups even while medicine has advanced.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ality-lifespan
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    Even in downtown Boston, which often brags about their healthcare and access we see a 30 year advantage for wealthier and whiter residents.

    "It lies behind the dismal findings of a 2015 Boston University study that showed that residents in the predominately white Back Bay have a life expectancy of 90 years; in Roxbury, a few miles away, with a large black population, that expectancy drops to 59 years."

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...ewell:trending
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    This is not necessarily due to healthcare.

    1. Poorer people take more risky jobs (Legal and Illegal)
    2. Poorer people sometimes live in more violent neighborhoods.
    3. Poorer people have worse diets, (in many ways thanks to the Department of HHS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    This is not necessarily due to healthcare.

    1. Poorer people take more risky jobs (Legal and Illegal)
    2. Poorer people sometimes live in more violent neighborhoods.
    3. Poorer people have worse diets, (in many ways thanks to the Department of HHS)
    Amazing, isn't it, that poor people risk their lives doing jobs their employers don't feel are worthy of a wage and benefits to keep them alive and well.
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    I'm telling you they might have gotten this down to a FINE science! Hear me out..

    You get 65 - 67 years out of a 'worker'. You give them minimum wage or whatever the least you can pay to get the work needed done. No or little benefits. The workers retire and start dying off--just about the time they were ready to start collecting 'entitlements'.

    The expense line of a business' balance sheet is less over the business' lifetime. The COUNTRY spends less on entitlements on each worker who dies after their usefulness is no more.

    This is WIN WIN!!

    (Tell me this isn't a plausible plan. There are actuaries out there that I promise have 'gamed this out').
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Amazing, isn't it, that poor people risk their lives doing jobs their employers don't feel are worthy of a wage and benefits to keep them alive and well.
    No, most rich people at one time did those risky jobs. you do know 8 of 10 millionaires are first generation.

    So once again your class warfare bigotry shows you are clueless.

    "Millionaire Next Door"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    No, most rich people at one time did those risky jobs. you do know 8 of 10 millionaires are first generation.

    So once again your class warfare bigotry shows you are clueless.

    "Millionaire Next Door"

    What "risky" jobs are you talking about?

    And how do you know that at one time Millionaires had "risky" jobs?


    This article should come as no surprise. It's just easier for wealthy people to access good comprehensive health care.

    I agree - healthcare should be a human right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Even in downtown Boston, which often brags about their healthcare and access we see a 30 year advantage for wealthier and whiter residents.

    "It lies behind the dismal findings of a 2015 Boston University study that showed that residents in the predominately white Back Bay have a life expectancy of 90 years; in Roxbury, a few miles away, with a large black population, that expectancy drops to 59 years."

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...ewell:trending
    I wish I could sound surprised about this. But even we have a lower gap in my nearby town. That's a RED FLARES differential. I know Back Bay is rich but GD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    No, most rich people at one time did those risky jobs. you do know 8 of 10 millionaires are first generation.

    So once again your class warfare bigotry shows you are clueless.

    "Millionaire Next Door"
    Link please.

    I grew up on one of the county's wealthiest zip codes, and based on that experience, call bs.
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