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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Did you notice that most of those solutions were to keep doing what Obamacare has been doing? "Let's just keep redistributing wealth and keep the bailout plan for insurance companies."
    You have two choices, keep the insurance companies afloat, or let our healthcare system crash and burn and put millions at risk of no coverage at all. Fix, or crash and burn, pick one. Trumpcare chooses crash and burn, 22 million lose coverage, millions more get reduced coverage, premiums still skyrocket for millions, people with pre-existing conditions are marginalized, Medicaid is reduced to a stump of itself and that is just the shit the CBO sees coming, not allowing for unforeseen consequences. There are other , more radical solutions involving Medicare for all or some other UHC system, but there is zero chance of any of that making it through this Congress.
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    Come up with a viable bi-partisan plan or just admit you do not give a fuck as long as you have insurance, fuck everybody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    You have two choices, keep the insurance companies afloat, or let our healthcare system crash and burn and put millions at risk of no coverage at all. Fix, or crash and burn, pick one. Trumpcare chooses crash and burn, 22 million lose coverage, millions more get reduced coverage, premiums still skyrocket for millions, people with pre-existing conditions are marginalized, Medicaid is reduced to a stump of itself and that is just the shit the CBO sees coming, not allowing for unforeseen consequences. There are other , more radical solutions involving Medicare for all or some other UHC system, but there is zero chance of any of that making it through this Congress.
    Funny how Obamacare was based on how awful insurance companies are and now they want to prop them up with taxpayer dollars.
    Here's a two step solution to fix Obamacare.
    1. Repeal it.
    2. Replace it with something entirely new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    There is only one solution in that article which I showed you yesterday.

    Their fix is to subsidize (bailout) insurers.

    Basically have the taxpayer cover everyone's medical care.

    So every other industrialized nation on earth is now Communist because every fucking one of them has some form of UHC? You must depend on Americans being some stupid motherfuckers to believe that bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Funny how Obamacare was based on how awful insurance companies are and now they want to prop them up with taxpayer dollars.
    Here's a two step solution to fix Obamacare.
    1. Repeal it.
    2. Replace it with something entirely new.
    The only thing on the table is Trumpcare, are you claiming that is better and a "fix"?

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    Defend the Republican plan if you can...and first explain why its key component is a trillion dollar tax cut for billionaires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Come up with a viable bi-partisan plan or just admit you do not give a fuck as long as you have insurance, fuck everybody else.
    Oh please. First of all, Obamacare wasn't bipartisan and it's not viable.
    There are millions of families being hurt by this piece of shit that you don't give a fuck about. Your party is more important than those families. Worshiping Obama is more important to you than the welfare of the country. So you can cut that shit out right now.

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    We cannot take away all of the sources of funding for the [Affordable Care Act] and expect to be able to come up with a bill that’s going to provide the kind of coverage that we would like to see,” Collins told reporters
    https://thinkprogress.org/senate-cou...s-594298bfe550

    And the only way Republicans can avoid a filibuster is repeal the ACA taxes to make the bill show a deficit reduction....rock, meet hard place

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post


    https://thinkprogress.org/senate-cou...s-594298bfe550

    And the only way Republicans can avoid a filibuster is repeal the ACA taxes to make the bill show a deficit reduction....rock, meet hard place
    How is it that your one trick in every thread is to question someone's source and then you pull out a piece of shit source like Think Progress? Go find a real source then get back to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Oh please. First of all, Obamacare wasn't bipartisan and it's not viable.
    There are millions of families being hurt by this piece of shit that you don't give a fuck about. Your party is more important than those families. Worshiping Obama is more important to you than the welfare of the country. So you can cut that shit out right now.
    The ACA was based on a Republican proposal and emulated Romneycare , so I call bullshit. Republicans chose to not make it bi-partisan, after adding over 150 Republican amendments they all still refused to vote for it. You keep in denial of the CBO report as long as you want, Trumpcare is a disaster and will never become law. My family is in their 70's and on Medicare so neither bill affects me personally, so get off the personal attacks.

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