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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Defend the Republican plan if you can...and first explain why its key component is a trillion dollar tax cut for billionaires.
    That's great coming from someone who supports a bailout for billionaire insurance companies and supports a plan that redistributes wealth from young people with lower net worths who don't use health care as much to higher income middle aged people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    How is it that your one trick in every thread is to question someone's source and then you pull out a piece of shit source like Think Progress? Go find a real source then get back to us.
    Are you denying Susan Collins said that? GMAFB.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ts-for-wealthy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    That's great coming from someone who supports a bailout for billionaire insurance companies and supports a plan that redistributes wealth from young people with lower net worths who don't use health care as much to higher income middle aged people.
    So you would rather the system crash and burn, got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    The ACA was based on a Republican proposal and emulated Romneycare , so I call bullshit. Republicans chose to not make it bi-partisan, after adding over 150 Republican amendments they all still refused to vote for it. You keep in denial of the CBO report as long as you want, Trumpcare is a disaster and will never become law. My family is in their 70's and on Medicare so neither bill affects me personally, so get off the personal attacks.
    This is a lie. The Romney plan was 80 pages long. Obamacare is thousands of pages.
    This is how you know how bad Obamacare is. If it was a good plan, if it was successful and popular, Democrat partisans wouldn't be trying to share credit for it. They would be crowing about how they wrote the bill all by themselves, rammed it through committee without it being properly written, lied to the American public to sell it and then passed it on a party line vote. But it sucks so as usual, the Obama worshipers have to try to blame someone else for his failures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    So you would rather the system crash and burn, got it.
    The system is burning now. It's a failure. Not that you care. Support the party!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Are you denying Susan Collins said that? GMAFB.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ts-for-wealthy
    No I'm showing you what it's like when someone doesn't argue, they just attack a source. Now stop reading crap sites like Think Progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    No I'm showing you what it's like when someone doesn't argue, they just attack a source. Now stop reading crap sites like Think Progress.
    I have never heard you criticize a right wing site, even crazy fucking sites like Alec Jones slide right by...why is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    So every other industrialized nation on earth is now Communist because every fucking one of them has some form of UHC? You must depend on Americans being some stupid motherfuckers to believe that bullshit.
    Look up the definition of communism then see if what those nations are doing fits the description.

    Then you can answer your own question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Look up the definition of communism then see if what those nations are doing fits the description.

    Then you can answer your own question.
    That would make Social Security, Medicare and the VA Communists in your fucked up world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    This is a lie. The Romney plan was 80 pages long. Obamacare is thousands of pages.
    This is how you know how bad Obamacare is. If it was a good plan, if it was successful and popular, Democrat partisans wouldn't be trying to share credit for it. They would be crowing about how they wrote the bill all by themselves, rammed it through committee without it being properly written, lied to the American public to sell it and then passed it on a party line vote. But it sucks so as usual, the Obama worshipers have to try to blame someone else for his failures.
    Romneycare also didn't have a mandate. Deval Patrick put that in. Most people don't realize Romneys final healthcare plan didn't make it through the state senate.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot.../#2cb9259114e0
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