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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Oh please. First of all, Obamacare wasn't bipartisan and it's not viable.
    There are millions of families being hurt by this piece of shit that you don't give a fuck about. Your party is more important than those families. Worshiping Obama is more important to you than the welfare of the country. So you can cut that shit out right now.
    What about the 20+ million that will have fucking nothing? Do you give a fuck about them? Who will pay their bills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    How is it that your one trick in every thread is to question someone's source and then you pull out a piece of shit source like Think Progress? Go find a real source then get back to us.
    No one needs a source to say the GOP plan is a piece of shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    That's great coming from someone who supports a bailout for billionaire insurance companies and supports a plan that redistributes wealth from young people with lower net worths who don't use health care as much to higher income middle aged people.
    Now you are getting the idea, that sounds workable. Certainly better than seeing 20 million lose insurance and having the taxpayer pick up the tab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Look up the definition of communism then see if what those nations are doing fits the description.

    Then you can answer your own question.
    It doesn't fit it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    That was dense. You are conflating socialist ideas with full blown communism. That is dishonest and with a PhD you should know that. Why do you need to use hyperbole and lies? Is your case that weak?
    There is no PhD. Maybe you meant GED and I would be surprised at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    In opposition to republiCon propaganda, "ObamaCare" is alive and well...not failing

    Trump's own Department of Health and Human Services: "ObamaCare" working as intended, not failing
    Nope it isn't and the weird thing is this was PREDICTED. Lower premiums for a period of time, 3 or 4 years in, higher premiums (I call it the 'shake out') and then stabilization. I had forgotten all about those projection until probably a month ago. I absolutely remember that. Makes perfect sense. The shakeout includes the INDIVIDUAL markets. If I'm a small business owner with me and my family or a few employees, I'm getting nailed.

    Frankly, let's do it. SINGLE PAYER. Let's make the adjustments, NEGOTIATE like crazy, change our tax rates and GET IT THE FUCK DONE! It is inevitable. 3-5 years to stabilize, everyone can get healtcare and the ECONOMY WILL BOOM as the chaos, changing rules and uncertainty is GONE!

    Oh yeah, and we have a HEALTHIER POPULATION WHICH MEANS THEY WILL BE MORE PRODUCTIVE!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    In opposition to republiCon propaganda, "ObamaCare" is alive and well...not failing

    Trump's own Department of Health and Human Services: "ObamaCare" working as intended, not failing
    Trump would love for Obamacare to fail. Trump's the President and now he owns healthcare for America. If Obamacare fails you can just add it to the list of Trump's business failures.

    Trump Airlines, Trump Beverages, Trump Casinos, Trump Magazine, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump University, Trump Steaks, etc., etc., etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Now you are getting the idea, that sounds workable. Certainly better than seeing 20 million lose insurance and having the taxpayer pick up the tab.
    If that sounds workable to you then you obviously didn't read it.
    It's not "losing" insurance when people choose not to purchase expensive plans with excessive coverage that they can't afford. Not that you give a shit about the people hurt by Obamacare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    If that sounds workable to you then you obviously didn't read it.
    It's not "losing" insurance when people choose not to purchase expensive plans with excessive coverage that they can't afford. Not that you give a shit about the people hurt by Obamacare.
    More of a shit than you give for the taxpayers who will foot the biil for these un/underinsured pikers when they suffer catastrophic healthcare issues.

    The simple way to reduce insurance costs is the spread the expense among the biggest pool possible. Everybody!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    There is no PhD. Maybe you meant GED and I would be surprised at that.
    Agreed, it's just another of his lies.

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