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    told you so Amelia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Has this done anything for you, that you have noticed?
    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    What was the motivation...and what have been the results??

    Can't say I've noticed. I'm stalled weightwise.

    I thought I saw a study which said women tended to be affected worse than men by the sweeteners (though a link I followed in the OP article said otherwise) ... and the coloring added to drinks has always seemed objectionable ... so I cut back.

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    If you are trying to lose weight or live a healthier lifestyle then drink water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    I think mostly people want to believe that they are making people fat because of a strange urge to believe that the experts who came up with it are actually fools. I think it ties into distrust of science, people thinking they can get their own "unadulterated" truth from some obscure blog on the internet. Also there's probably a bit of aassociation fallacy thrown in. Overweight people drink diet soda, therefore diet soda is why they are fat. Like saying bald people wear hats, therefore hats are why they are bald, when in reality it's baldness that leads to excessive hat wearing.
    The funny thing about it is that losing weight is based on a very simple concept: burn more calories than you take in. But that can be a very complicated business.
    Everyone's body is different and there is no one size fits all approach. But for the most part, people who take a more passive approach to losing weight by making only minor changes to their lifestyle, for example drinking diet soda instead of regular, probably won't be successful at it.
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    Does the body look at artificial sweeteners differently then sugar? Those with a diabetic problem are the fake sweeteners safer to use use as far as sugar problems go?
    Not unless you are a rodent.


    Gender Dimorphism in Aspartame-Induced Impairment of Spatial Cognition and Insulin Sensitivity


    Previous studies have linked aspartame consumption to impaired retention of learned behavior in rodents. Prenatal exposure to aspartame has also been shown to impair odor-associative learning in guinea pigs; and recently, aspartame-fed hyperlipidemic zebrafish exhibited weight gain, hyperglycemia and acute swimming defects. We therefore investigated the effects of chronic lifetime exposure to aspartame, commencing in utero, on changes in blood glucose parameters, spatial learning and memory in C57BL/6J mice.

    Gender Dimorphism in Aspartame-Induced Impairment of Spatial Cognition and Insulin Sensitivity




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    here is the parent article.
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...fuse-body.aspx

    There are no definitive studies. Just observations going back to the 1980 to give an "educated' guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    The funny thing about it is that losing weight is based on a very simple concept: burn more calories than you take in. But that can be a very complicated business.
    Everyone's body is different and there is no one size fits all approach. But for the most part, people who take a more passive approach to losing weight by making only minor changes to their lifestyle, for example drinking diet soda instead of regular, probably won't be successful at it.

    Changing metabolism makes it trickier. Body doesn't like burning a lot of fat stores. It can ratchet down the calorie burning.

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    Are Diet Drinks Making Us Fat?

    Not me. I don't drink them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Does the body look at artificial sweeteners differently then sugar? Those with a diabetic problem are the fake sweeteners safer to use use as far as sugar problems go?
    Basically they are sugars that can't be digested by the body, either other forms of natural sugars, or modified sugars. I believe on is sucrose with a chlorine attached, so the body can't absorb it. The body thinks it is getting sugar, then increases cravings for sugary foods because it was preparing for the calories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Changing metabolism makes it trickier. Body doesn't like burning a lot of fat stores. It can ratchet down the calorie burning.
    One of the tricks is to occasionally change up your exercise regimen. Your body gets used to exercising a certain way so it starts to not work as well.
    Plus, one of the benefits of exercise (as opposed to just dieting) is that it changes your metabolism. Better developed muscles burn more calories.
    Last edited by Macduff; 19th July 2017 at 06:15 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Changing metabolism makes it trickier. Body doesn't like burning a lot of fat stores. It can ratchet down the calorie burning.
    Yup, a study of all the biggest loser contestants that lost so much weight, most end up gaining it back. THe body tries to adjust by increasing storage.

    Man, if they can ever figure out how to shut off fat storage safely, what a huge blockbuster drug that would be. But most attempts lead to nasty side effects

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    Instead of wondering about this soft drink or that, what you need to do is gradually reduce your taste for sweets.

    We can't keep eating like we are 15 years old drinking soda pop all day.

    It's not easy at first, but you can do it, for myself it only took a couple weeks.

    Back around 1900 the incidence of cancer was about 1 in 25, today it is about 1 in 4, what is significantly different: our diet, we eat much more sugar!

    Thx (and watch out for the popcorn too!<)
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