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    Deductibles are too high, and premiums are volatile.
    And how do you propose fixing that without simply using taxes to cover it?

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    CA will have 1 provider (but not for all counties) in 2018... 11,000,000 more are expected to pay the penalties instead of purchasing insurance in 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Republicans have been doing their darnedest to break Obamacare. That's for sure.
    They would rather watch people unable to go to a doctor than to help improve Obamacare
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    We will see what Happens. It is democrats that cheer 60 votes because they do not want to fix Obamacare
    They were excluded..remember? Then they were shown the new health plan and it was awful. The cbo said millions and millions of Americans would be unable to see a doctor

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    CA will have 1 provider (but not for all counties) in 2018... 11,000,000 more are expected to pay the penalties instead of purchasing insurance in 2018.
    I honestly do not know where you get your fake news from all the time..

    Kaiser Permanente, Blue Shield of California and Health Net, which collectively cover two-thirds of the 1.3 million Covered California enrollees, intend to continue selling plans on the California exchange, or marketplace, in 2018. The move is an incremental but important signal of confidence from insurers that they expect the exchange to continue operating next year, at least in California, whose exchange has been one of the most stable in the nation.

    Covered California insurers move forward on 2018 plans - San Francisco Chronicle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    They would rather watch people unable to go to a doctor than to help improve Obamacare
    No, obama promised me I could keep my plan and keep my doctor and improve my access.... did obama lie to the American people? Did Pelosi Lie the the American people, did Harry Reid Lie to the American people, did Hillary lie to the American people?

    Was obamacare passed with the purpose of it failing Yes.

    everything the TEA Party said would happen with ACA has happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    No, obama promised me I could keep my plan and keep my doctor and improve my access.... did obama lie to the American people? Did Pelosi Lie the the American people, did Harry Reid Lie to the American people, did Hillary lie to the American people?

    Was obamacare passed with the purpose of it failing Yes.

    everything the TEA Party said would happen with ACA has happened.
    Was he wrong? Yes.... did he deliberately lie I don't think so. He could've done what Trump did and say that every person will have healthcare, every single person and it will be a lot less. That would be a lie. How was it affected you? It has not affected most Americans and many Americans have found their plans cheaper. Why would Obama try to pass a plan with the purpose of failing? This sentence totally lacks in common sense. That's like my saying I gave my students an exam with the purpose of them all failing. Just ridiculous. But just think of the millions and millions of Americans who can now see a doctor. Think of the lives that are being saved. Why don't you concentrate on improving it? No you would rather see people suffer then for the affordable care act to help Americans .
    Tell us how trumps plan was better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Was he wrong? Yes.... did he deliberately lie I don't think so. He could've done what Trump did and say that every person will have healthcare, every single person and it will be a lot less. That would be a lie. How was it affected you? It has not affected most Americans and many Americans have found their plans cheaper. Why would Obama try to pass a plan with the purpose of failing? This sentence totally lacks in common sense. That's like my saying I gave my students an exam with the purpose of them all failing. Just ridiculous. But just think of the millions and millions of Americans who can now see a doctor. Think of the lives that are being saved. Why don't you concentrate on improving it? No you would rather see people suffer then for the affordable care act to help Americans .
    Tell us how trumps plan was better.
    He lied he knew.. Guber made that clear by tell us how "Stupid" the American Democrat was for supporting the plan. A lot of people Qualified as members of the "Gruber Stupids"
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    No, obama promised me I could keep my plan and keep my doctor and improve my access.... did obama lie to the American people? Did Pelosi Lie the the American people, did Harry Reid Lie to the American people, did Hillary lie to the American people?

    Was obamacare passed with the purpose of it failing Yes.

    everything the TEA Party said would happen with ACA has happened.
    No it has not. If you look at the actual facts, which somehow, you seem to keep ignoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    No it has not. If you look at the actual facts, which somehow, you seem to keep ignoring.
    I have looked at the facts. For some reasons people like you think that People that paid the individual penalty are insured, they are not insured they paid a fine for the right to NOT PURCHASE insurance. (obama counted those that paid the fine and did not purchase insurance as insured. (welcome to Guberville, CA).

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