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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobfitcher View Post
    Perhaps it's because they are still treated as "less than".
    So, you are saying if we treat them "More then", they will become happy and never be depressed again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Are you claiming there is no longer a high rate of depression and suicide among TG folks?

    I would think its a problem that still exists.
    Congratulations. It must be nice to see your life's work yeilding measurable results.

    However, as much as sneering contempt, viscious bullying, and the relentless barrage of insults is taking its toll, there's always room for you to go nastier, meaner, and REALLY stick it to your victims.

    We believe in you. You may not get that suicide / depression rate up to 100%, but by golly we know you won't stop trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    So, you are saying if we treat them "More then", they will become happy and never be depressed again?
    He's not saying that, you are voicing your fear that they might be treated as equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    So, you are saying if we treat them "More then", they will become happy and never be depressed again?
    You can't even manufacture your own happiness, how are you going do for others what you can't do for yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    He's not saying that, you are voicing your fear that they might be treated as equal.
    It is the white christian falicy to believe that others are inferior. He can not be "chosen" if just anybody is his equal.

    Talk about fucken mental illness. To believe that a space spaghetti monster is the source of superiority...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    He's not saying that, you are voicing your fear that they might be treated as equal.
    It's that old Southern "second rung syndrome". The feeling that "I'm poor, backward, uneducated and unmotivated - that I'm the second lowest rung in society. But not the lowest. Never the lowest". Then someone comes along and says that non-whites, homosexuals and women are equal citizens and - fuck me -if that's the case and we're all judged by personal merit, that would mean I'm the lowest.

    If "they" aren't naturally lower than me, then I'm the lowest.

    So then begins the psychological need to convince everyone else, constantly, that THEY are the lowest. So that I'm not.


    Instead of just achieving something themselves that would give them some actual pride. Not Pride based on randomness of birth.

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    Perhaps you should focus on your own sexuality.....and get it straightened out....instead of spending all your time sniffing out others'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    It is the white christian falicy to believe that others are inferior. He can not be "chosen" if just anybody is his equal.

    Talk about fucken mental illness. To believe that a space spaghetti monster is the source of superiority...
    What's even worse is they won't follow Jesus's teaching....love thy neighbor.
    They refuse to accept we're all God's children. Christians, my ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    There are no studies on the depression rates of post-op Transgendered individuals.





    If there is not enough research on the benefits of problems associated with TG Surgery...How did the Dr come to his first conclusions?
    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...type=printable

    I'm sure there is not enough research but there is stuff out there.

    Abstract
    Context:
    The treatment for transsexualism is sex reassignment, including hormonal treatment and surgery aimed at making
    the person’s body as congruent with the opposite sex as possible. There is a dearth of long term, follow-up studies after sex
    reassignment.
    Objective:
    To estimate mortality, morbidity, and criminal rate after surgical sex reassignment of transsexual persons.
    Design:
    A population-based matched cohort study.
    Setting:
    Sweden, 1973-2003.
    Participants:
    All 324 sex-reassigned persons (191 male-to-females, 133 female-to-males) in Sweden, 1973–2003. Random
    population controls (10:1) were matched by birth year and birth sex or reassigned (final) sex, respectively.
    Main Outcome Measures:
    Hazard ratios (HR) with 95% confidence intervals (CI) for mortality and psychiatric morbidity were
    obtained with Cox regression models, which were adjusted for immigrant status and psychiatric morbidity prior to sex
    reassignment (adjusted HR [aHR]).
    Results:
    The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8–4.3) than for
    controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8–62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had
    an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9).
    Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females,
    had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.
    Conclusions:
    Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal
    behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although
    alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and
    somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
    Citation:
    Dhejne C, Lichtenstein P, Boman M, Johansson ALV, La
    ̊
    ngstro
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    m N, et al. (2011) Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex
    Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden. PLoS ONE 6(2): e16885. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
    Editor:
    James Scott, The University of Queensland, Australia
    Received
    September 30, 2010;
    Accepted
    January 9, 2011;
    Published
    February 22, 2011
    Copyright:
    ß
    2011 Dhejne et al. This is an open-access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits
    unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original author and source are credited.
    Funding:
    Financial support was provided through the regional agreement on medical training and clinical research (ALF) between Stockholm County Council
    and the Karolinska Institutet, and through grants from the Swedish Medical Research Council (K2008-62x-14647-06-3) and the Royal Swedish Academy o
    f Sciences
    (Torsten Amundson’s Foundation). The sponsors of the study had no role in study design, data collection, data analysis, data interpretation, or writ
    ing of the
    report. All authors had full access to the data in the study and the final responsibility for the decision to submit for publication was made by the corre
    sponding
    author.
    Competing Interests:
    The authors have declared that no competing interests exist.
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