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    The Transgender Con? Many “Transgender” People Regret Switch

    Its interesting that a possible cause for the high amount of depression among TG's might be the fact that they are regretting what they did yet the lefts want to suppress this information.

    It appears many people are simply "talked into" having these feeling that they are the opposite sex and later wish they hadn't done what they did.

    “You fundamentally can't change sex…. Transsexualism was invented by psychiatrists.” These are not the words of a conservative organization or a fundamentalist preacher, but of former “transsexual” Alan Finch.
    Having decided to “transition from male to female” at age 19, the Australian man later regretted the life-rending move and chose to once again live as his true sex approximately 15 years later. And he’s not alone. A growing number of “transgender” people, though once sure they wanted to live as the opposite sex, now wish they'd never had their bodies surgically altered.

    Morabito goes on to cite a poll showing that even 65 percent of people who’ve had cosmetic surgery — which is relatively minor body alteration — later regret the decision. As she writes, quoting Courtney Love on her lip enhancement procedure, “I just want the mouth God gave me back.”

    Yet many regretful “transsexuals” are afraid to open their mouths. Writing about how the scope of “transgender” de-transition desires is hidden, Morabito writes, “The transgender lobby actively polices and suppresses discussion of sex-change regret, and claims it’s rare (no more than “5 percent.”) [sic]. However, if you do decide to ‘de-transition’ to once again identify with the sex in your DNA, talking about it will get you targeted by trans activists.” This is reminiscent of how the homosexual lobby has viciously attacked grown children of same-sex couples all because these people now oppose same-sex child-rearing, which The New American reported on earlier this month.

    Are these people outliers, as “transgender” activists would say? Not according to research. As The Guardian also wrote in 2004:

    There is no conclusive evidence that sex change operations improve the lives of transsexuals, with many people remaining severely distressed and even suicidal after the operation, according to a medical review conducted exclusively for Guardian Weekend tomorrow.
    The review of more than 100 international medical studies of post-operative transsexuals by the University of Birmingham's aggressive research intelligence facility (Arif) found no robust scientific evidence that gender reassignment surgery is clinically effective.
    … Chris Hyde, the director of Arif, said: … "There's still a large number of people who have the surgery but remain traumatized — often to the point of committing suicide."

    Yet “transgender” dogma is so unquestioned today that even very young children are allowed to choose their “gender.” An example is six-year-old girl Ryland, who Parent 24’s Tamar Cloete bills as the “world's youngest transgender child.” Calling her parents’ decision to allow her to live as a boy “brave,” Cloete writes that this “may be a phase or it might not, but that is all up to the kid to decide.”

    Absolutely striking. We would agree that a six-year-old is far too young to decide his own diet, educational program, or bedtime. But we’re to believe he’s mature enough to decide to “live as the opposite sex”?

    Cloete says that Ryland’s parents “learnt about a higher suicide/suicide attempt rate among transgender people” and don’t want to lose their child, indicating they’re unaware that “the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people,” as CNS News reported in August. They also are unlikely to know that 70 to 80 percent of children with their daughter’s feelings spontaneously lose them.
    https://www.thenewamerican.com/cultu...-regret-switch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Its interesting that a possible cause for the high amount of depression among TG's might be the fact that they are regretting what they did yet the lefts want to suppress this information.

    It appears many people are simply "talked into" having these feeling that they are the opposite sex and later wish they hadn't done what they did.



    https://www.thenewamerican.com/cultu...-regret-switch
    Why in the world should I care about an article in a far right wing blog from 2014???

    And a "study" the Guardian posted in 2004??? You know 13 years ago?


    Are you really that bored again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Why in the world should I care about an article in a far right wing blog from 2014???

    And a "study" the Guardian posted in 2004??? You know 13 years ago?


    Are you really that bored again?
    Are you claiming there is no longer a high rate of depression and suicide among TG folks?

    I would think its a problem that still exists and one we should be concerned about.

    But as the article states, people such as yourself refuse to talk about the negative aspects of this surgery, you prefer to sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist while many of these people suffer every day.

    Very sad.
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    Perhaps it's because they are still treated as "less than".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Are you claiming there is no longer a high rate of depression and suicide among TG folks?

    I would think its a problem that still exists and one we should be concerned about.

    But as the article states, people such as yourself refuse to talk about the negative aspects of this surgery, you prefer to sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist while many of these people suffer every day.

    Very sad.
    Your concern is noted, although highly suspect.
    Call your local trans chapter to see how you can help, personally, because you care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Its interesting that a possible cause for the high amount of depression among TG's might be the fact that they are regretting what they did yet the lefts want to suppress this information.

    It appears many people are simply "talked into" having these feeling that they are the opposite sex and later wish they hadn't done what they did.



    https://www.thenewamerican.com/cultu...-regret-switch
    Morabito goes on to cite a poll showing that even 65 percent of people who’ve had cosmetic surgery — which is relatively minor body alteration — later regret the decision. As she writes, quoting Courtney Love on her lip enhancement procedure, “I just want the mouth God gave me back.”
    This should give an true indication as to the seriousness of this article or the subject is.

    To say since there are no studies on Transgenderism 'regret' is proof that transgerdered are being silenced is a ridiculous proposition.

    I read sourced linked articles and linked information and it seems the two criticisms to reassignment surgery are

    1] modification of one's body is bad

    2] In the UK...where most of this issue arises..the issue of NHS paying for the reassignment surgery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Are you claiming there is no longer a high rate of depression and suicide among TG folks?

    I would think its a problem that still exists and one we should be concerned about.

    But as the article states, people such as yourself refuse to talk about the negative aspects of this surgery, you prefer to sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist while many of these people suffer every day.

    Very sad.
    What is high rate? do you or your source material have a number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobfitcher View Post
    Perhaps it's because they are still treated as "less than".
    There are no studies on the depression rates of post-op Transgendered individuals.

    Chris Hyde, the director of Arif, said: "There is a huge uncertainty over whether changing someone's sex is a good or a bad thing. While no doubt great care is taken to ensure that appropriate patients undergo gender reassignment, there's still a large number of people who have the surgery but remain traumatised - often to the point of committing suicide."
    Dr Hyde said: "The bottom line is that although it's clear that some people do well with gender reassignment surgery, the available research does little to reassure about how many patients do badly and, if so, how badly."
    If there is not enough research on the benefits of problems associated with TG Surgery...How did the Dr come to his first conclusions?
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    The OP is a load of horse manure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    The OP is a load of horse manure.
    This keeps sticking out to me

    from the OP

    There is no conclusive evidence that sex change operations improve the lives of transsexuals,
    with many people remaining severely distressed and even suicidal after the operation,
    There is equally no conclusive evidence that sex change opperations are a detrement to the lives of transexuals.

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