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    Quote Originally Posted by Otto Throttle View Post
    You're calling the New York Times article "proven false"? On which facts? The huge undisclosed donations from parties to the Uranium deal to the Clinton Foundation? Links...
    I guess you missed this part at the bottom of the NYT article?

    Correction: April 30, 2015
    An article on Friday about contributions to the Clinton Foundation from people associated with a Canadian uranium-mining company described incorrectly the foundation’s agreement with the Obama administration regarding foreign-government donations while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. Under the agreement, the foundation would not accept new donations from foreign governments, though it could seek State Department waivers in specific cases. The foundation was not barred from accepting all foreign-government donations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    I guess you missed this part at the bottom of the NYT article?

    Correction: April 30, 2015
    An article on Friday about contributions to the Clinton Foundation from people associated with a Canadian uranium-mining company described incorrectly the foundation’s agreement with the Obama administration regarding foreign-government donations while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. Under the agreement, the foundation would not accept new donations from foreign governments, though it could seek State Department waivers in specific cases. The foundation was not barred from accepting all foreign-government donations.
    I don't see how the correction/disclaimer affects the pertinent facts of the story. It is surprising that the New York Times let a random act of journalism slip by, isn't it? In any case the Clinton Foundation took in millions in foreign donations, didn't disclose all of them, and Bill got paid a half million dollars by a Russian party to the deal for a speech. Which of those facts from the article are changed by that correction?
    Amid this influx of Uranium One-connected money, Mr. Clinton was invited to speak in Moscow in June 2010, the same month Rosatom struck its deal for a majority stake in Uranium One.
    The $500,000 fee — among Mr. Clinton’s highest — was paid by Renaissance Capital, a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin
    Russian collusion? Maybe Mueller will investigate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    and of course, his progressives, and they WERE called progressives then, not progs, or whatever else the 4chan, reddit, freepers might call them, unsuccessfully campaigned on that in their states.

    A Brief History: Universal Health Care Efforts in the US | Physicians for a National Health Program

    So, TR must have been a RINO eh?

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    Doesn't matter what his label was, he was still wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    Doesn't matter what his label was, he was still wrong.
    No, he was prescient and he was right, just look at every industrialized nation on earth today, they all have some form of UHC, well all except us. And we are dragging our feet because poor people suck and do not deserve health care, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    and of course, his progressives, and they WERE called progressives then, not progs, or whatever else the 4chan, reddit, freepers might call them, unsuccessfully campaigned on that in their states.

    A Brief History: Universal Health Care Efforts in the US | Physicians for a National Health Program

    So, TR must have been a RINO eh?

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    He was What party did the Bull Moose party become a part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Todays alt right Republicans despise Teddy Roosevelt and disown him as a Republican.
    Because he was a blatant racist.

    Do you overlook that part?

    Makes you wonder why liberals aren't against him doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Because he was a blatant racist.

    Do you overlook that part?

    Makes you wonder why liberals aren't against him doesn't it?
    So was Jefferson and Washington and Lincoln.And so is Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    So was Jefferson and Washington and Lincoln.And so is Trump.
    And Hillary and Kennedy and Roosevelt and Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    And Hillary and Kennedy and Roosevelt and Johnson.
    So what was your original point then?

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    Hillary was part of a comity that was one of about nine steps in the process to make that sale. It's utter boulder-dash to try to smear her with that.

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