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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Has any change to Obamacare passed since Trump took office?
    I hope not, that would changing it from Obamacare, to something else, but it has already been done.

    The changes announced Thursday include:

    • A shortened sign-up window of 45 days, starting with coverage for 2018. That's about half as long as the current open-enrollment season. Some insurers say a tighter sign-up schedule will allow for more focused marketing. Consumer advocates are worried uninsured people may be left out.

    • Curbs on “special enrollment periods” that allow consumers to sign up outside the normal open-enrollment window. Insurers say these have been too easily granted, allowing some people to sign up only when they need costly treatment.

    • Allowing an insurer to collect past debt for unpaid premiums from the previous 12 months before applying a consumer's payments to a new policy.

    • Giving insurers more flexibility to design low-premium plans that can be tailored to young adults.

    Trump administration rolls out changes to Obamacare - LA Times


    Trump Signs Executive Order To Roll Back Obamacare
    "President Donald Trump wasted no time in chipping away at the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (sometimes called "ACA" or "Obamacare"). Today, shortly after he was sworn in as the 45th President of the United States, President Trump signed an executive order giving the Department of Health and Human Services and "other executive departments and agencies" the authority and discretion to roll back certain aspects of the Affordable Care Act."
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyph.../#63f22b443eeb

    So the question will be, if the PPACA truly does fail, will it have failed (or survived) without the changes, because they either propped it up or made it worse, but definitively changed it from what it was when Trump took office? One thing does seem certain though, the PPACA, before Trump, has meant more people are insured, people are not left uninsured because of pre-existing conditions and the rate of increases in insurance premiums has slowed from what it was, prior to the PPACA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    I hope not, that would changing it from Obamacare, to something else, but it has already been done.

    The changes announced Thursday include:

    • A shortened sign-up window of 45 days, starting with coverage for 2018. That's about half as long as the current open-enrollment season. Some insurers say a tighter sign-up schedule will allow for more focused marketing. Consumer advocates are worried uninsured people may be left out.

    • Curbs on “special enrollment periods” that allow consumers to sign up outside the normal open-enrollment window. Insurers say these have been too easily granted, allowing some people to sign up only when they need costly treatment.

    • Allowing an insurer to collect past debt for unpaid premiums from the previous 12 months before applying a consumer's payments to a new policy.

    • Giving insurers more flexibility to design low-premium plans that can be tailored to young adults.

    Trump administration rolls out changes to Obamacare - LA Times


    Trump Signs Executive Order To Roll Back Obamacare
    "President Donald Trump wasted no time in chipping away at the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (sometimes called "ACA" or "Obamacare"). Today, shortly after he was sworn in as the 45th President of the United States, President Trump signed an executive order giving the Department of Health and Human Services and "other executive departments and agencies" the authority and discretion to roll back certain aspects of the Affordable Care Act."
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyph.../#63f22b443eeb

    So the question will be, if Obama truly does fail, would it have failed (or survived) without the changes, because they either propped it up or made it worse, but definitively changed it from what it was when Trump took office?
    According to your link those changes were already scheduled, Obama had just delayed them.

    So Trump is just basically "letting it ride".

    Happy about what you guys passed yet?

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    Did your president just instruct the IRS to allow people to break the law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    The first question is, can the President remove the individual mandate by EO?

    The next question is, will the GOP reps sit back and let it happen?
    Dude, its already happened. The IRS has been told not to enforce the penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    According to your link those changes were already scheduled, Obama had just delayed them.

    So Trump is just basically "letting it ride".

    Happy about what you guys passed yet?
    Where "according to your [the] link"???

    I'm just fine with what was passed. As with everything, there is room for improvement. Plenty of people seem to feel the same. Isn't that why "repeal and replace" failed?

    Seems like insurance companies and those they lobby are not too happy with what the PPACA has limited, with regard to their being able to gouge the American people because of their being in pain and suffering.
    Last edited by KnotaFrayed; 31st July 2017 at 09:48 AM.

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    The GOP should be happy to let him rule by EO.

    They didn't find a majority to vote down the mandates.. so if ACA fails, because of Trump's EO's... why would they fight him ?
    GOP by majority WANTS it to fail, just couldn't go there without risking their re-election.

    So if it fails, and it can all be pinned back to Trump and his EO's.. why would they fight him on it ?
    They get what they want, and all blame is with the Donny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    Did your president just instruct the IRS to allow people to break the law?
    No but our former President did.

    He also instructed ICE not to enforce immigration law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Spooky was finally right about something!

    The President has already issued an EO to halt enforcement of the individual mandate. He has also killed funding for announcing the annual sign-up period and threatened to withhold subsidies to private sector insurance providers who operate in the exchanges.
    SpookyColt and NightSwimmer, I agree with you. The Trump Whitehouse will continue openly undermining the Affordable Care Act, (ACA). Due to the increasing popularity of the ACA, those congressional Republicans that may refrain from publicly joining trumpís efforts, will conspire to join by feeding poison pills to the ACA.
    ACA will likely be a significant issue within primary and general elections for federal offices at LEAST until the year 2020.

    Iím a proponent of federal insurance coverage for federally insured catastrophic annual medical expenditures on behalf of individual patients. Such expenses are now legal indebtnesses of individuals or insurance plans or theyíre paid by charities.
    The significant portions of such expenditures in the USA, that are not otherwise paid, eventually become of some direct or indirect expenses to our governments, (i.e. our taxpayers).

    Refer to:
    Catastrophic medical insurance

    Respectfully, Supposn

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