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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    It's been over a decade since I retired, I still wake up bright and early each day. Even when I try to sleep in, it just isn't going to happen. When I was getting ready for BASIC training, I had a problem that not many had... I missed the weight requirements for being underweight. That's right, I had to weigh 150 lbs and no matter what I did, I could not hit that mark. The recruiter stuffed me full of bananas and chocolate milk, and a doctor looked at the scale's needle from an angle. Last year, I reached the heaviest that I have ever been, just under 250 lbs at 6'1". I dieted and got back to 182 lbs where I feel comfortable.

    The service was big on those weigh ins when I was serving. Anyone who didn't meet weigh in, had to go for the pinch test where they measured body fat. If your BMI was over, you could be stopped from reenlisting or even chaptered out. A lot has changed in the military. When I was in, PT was a unit function. That has changed in many units. Now, soldiers will have to log what activity they did for their physical training. I do not know how well this is monitored. Falling out of a five mile morning run was not acceptable.
    My best friend joined the Navy after high school and she was in for a long time, not a combat role, she was a air traffic controller. She had two kids while serving and after the first one, she gained 70 pounds while pregnant. She had to attend, what she called, "fat camp" to get back in shape.
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    13% of any population being obese is alarming.

    I wonder if people are really cognizant of exactly how many snap judgments people make about fat people the instant they meet them, completely unconsciously. "This person is fat. They are probably both mentally and physically lazy, likely have a self-esteem and body image problem, possibly depression, general bitterness towards fit people, a victim mentality..."

    People make those judgments and raise guards against all of those things when meeting an overweight person. All kinds of negative consequences.

    The Weight Of A Med Student's Subconscious Bias | WLRN
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19763700
    For Obese People, Prejudice in Plain Sight - The New York Times

    I don't think working to keep kids moving and eating well and not fat is a minor thing. Physical education ought to be MUCH MORE of a focus in early education. Every little kid needs to be involved in some sort of physical, super fun activity, and not just some bullshit that some athletic kids will be good at but others will not. A wide variety of stuff to do, so they can have some fun and learn to enjoy moving around. By the time they're 8 years old they ought to be ripped, ready to bounce off the walls at all times, conditioned to a life of living not like a lunatic athlete, but just a reasonably fit person. It's not a "program" or "something nice we could do for kids". It should literally be a minimum standard, like teaching them to speak.

    You ever seen a 120-lb 9-year old throwing down Big Macs at McDonald's? Fucking breaks my heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Any possibility that the addition of an obese Commander in Chief just raised the average weight of the entire military to now appear more out of shape than before?
    Unless 13% of the soldiers decided to suddenly gain weight starting January 20th, I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    13% of any population being obese is alarming.

    I wonder if people are really cognizant of exactly how many snap judgments people make about fat people the instant they meet them, completely unconsciously. "This person is fat. They are probably both mentally and physically lazy, likely have a self-esteem and body image problem, possibly depression, general bitterness towards fit people, a victim mentality..."

    People make those judgments and raise guards against all of those things when meeting an overweight person. All kinds of negative consequences.

    The Weight Of A Med Student's Subconscious Bias | WLRN
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19763700
    For Obese People, Prejudice in Plain Sight - The New York Times

    I don't think working to keep kids moving and eating well and not fat is a minor thing. Physical education ought to be MUCH MORE of a focus in early education. Every little kid needs to be involved in some sort of physical, super fun activity, and not just some bullshit that some athletic kids will be good at but others will not. A wide variety of stuff to do, so they can have some fun and learn to enjoy moving around. By the time they're 8 years old they ought to be ripped, ready to bounce off the walls at all times, conditioned to a life of living not like a lunatic athlete, but just a reasonably fit person. It's not a "program" or "something nice we could do for kids". It should literally be a minimum standard, like teaching them to speak.

    You ever seen a 120-lb 9-year old throwing down Big Macs at McDonald's? Fucking breaks my heart.
    So many schools doing away with gym class and recess doesn't help. We stuff foreign languages, computer skills, math and all sorts of stuff on our little kids all while they sit at a desk all day. Not going to do much good with all those skills if they end up with heart disease and diabetes by the time they are 20.

    https://thebestschools.org/magazine/death-of-recess/
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    So many schools doing away with gym class and recess doesn't help. We stuff foreign languages, computer skills, math and all sorts of stuff on our little kids all while they sit at a desk all day. Not going to do much good with all those skills if they end up with heart disease and diabetes by the time they are 20.

    https://thebestschools.org/magazine/death-of-recess/
    And I bet kids just don't go out and play much anymore the way we used to.

    I was always running around and riding my bike!

    Half of my toys were outdoor toys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    13% of any population being obese is alarming.

    I wonder if people are really cognizant of exactly how many snap judgments people make about fat people the instant they meet them, completely unconsciously. "This person is fat. They are probably both mentally and physically lazy, likely have a self-esteem and body image problem, possibly depression, general bitterness towards fit people, a victim mentality..."

    People make those judgments and raise guards against all of those things when meeting an overweight person. All kinds of negative consequences.

    The Weight Of A Med Student's Subconscious Bias | WLRN
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19763700
    For Obese People, Prejudice in Plain Sight - The New York Times

    I don't think working to keep kids moving and eating well and not fat is a minor thing. Physical education ought to be MUCH MORE of a focus in early education. Every little kid needs to be involved in some sort of physical, super fun activity, and not just some bullshit that some athletic kids will be good at but others will not. A wide variety of stuff to do, so they can have some fun and learn to enjoy moving around. By the time they're 8 years old they ought to be ripped, ready to bounce off the walls at all times, conditioned to a life of living not like a lunatic athlete, but just a reasonably fit person. It's not a "program" or "something nice we could do for kids". It should literally be a minimum standard, like teaching them to speak.

    You ever seen a 120-lb 9-year old throwing down Big Macs at McDonald's? Fucking breaks my heart.
    More than two-thirds (68.8 percent) of adults are considered to be overweight or obese. More than one-third (35.7 percent) of adults are considered to be obese. More than 1 in 20 (6.3 percent) have extreme obesity. Almost 3 in 4 men (74 percent) are considered to be overweight or obese.

    https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-inf...weight-obesity


    Police officers, firefighters and security guards have the highest rates of obesity of all professions, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of data from the American Journal of Preventive Medicine. According to the Journal, 40.7% of police, firefighters and security guards are obese.

    Cops are the Fattest Profession | Time.com

    I think the army seems to be doing pretty well in comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    And I bet kids just don't go out and play much anymore the way we used to.

    I was always running around and riding my bike!

    Half of my toys were outdoor toys.

    Thx
    Anyone remember "come home when the street lights come on?" lol We were always outside, girls and boys. Nowadays I am shocked how many kids don't even know how to ride a bike. But they know how to play "Call of Duty."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    So many schools doing away with gym class and recess doesn't help. We stuff foreign languages, computer skills, math and all sorts of stuff on our little kids all while they sit at a desk all day. Not going to do much good with all those skills if they end up with heart disease and diabetes by the time they are 20.

    https://thebestschools.org/magazine/death-of-recess/
    Then we wonder why kids are restless and unable to focus. Recess and gym is also important for them to run off a little energy midday as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Anyone remember "come home when the street lights come on?" lol We were always outside, girls and boys. Nowadays I am shocked how many kids don't even know how to ride a bike. But they know how to play "Call of Duty."
    I was going to mention that. ^

    Also, my father calling out, cupped hands into the neighborhood to call me to supper.

    Every Saturday morning too, my partner in crime Mike Wilson and I used to plan a bike trip to some remote destination, like riding our bikes to the beach from West Covina.

    We would come home tired, hungry, filthy from running through the creeks, back home with a big bag of stinking, suffering crawdads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Then we wonder why kids are restless and unable to focus. Recess and gym is also important for them to run off a little energy midday as well.
    I wish I had recess even as an adult! lol
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