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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    I was going to mention that. ^

    Also, my father calling out, cupped hands into the neighborhood to call me to supper.

    Every Saturday morning too, my partner in crime Mike Wilson and I used to plan a bike trip to some remote destination, like riding our bikes to the beach from West Covina.

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    When my son was young one of his buddies down the street wasn't ever allowed outside. His parents wanted him to read and be safe inside. We always offered to watch him or make sure he wouldn't get hurt but they were people that "don't do playing." Today over a decade later, he is obese and cant find a job. Dropped out of college and we don't see him much. All the other "kids" around from then are in college, working and not overweight. I do think it becomes a lifestyle thing. If you get out a lot as a kid you will continue as an adult for the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    When my son was young one of his buddies down the street wasn't ever allowed outside. His parents wanted him to read and be safe inside. We always offered to watch him or make sure he wouldn't get hurt but they were people that "don't do playing." Today over a decade later, he is obese and cant find a job. Dropped out of college and we don't see him much. All the other "kids" around from then are in college, working and not overweight. I do think it becomes a lifestyle thing. If you get out a lot as a kid you will continue as an adult for the most part.


    We earned our food as a kid, lived off the land, we worked all day to bring back that big bag of crawdads I put in my last post on edit^^.

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    I think peer pressure and some healthy "bullying" (within limits) helps. It can be a great motivator.

    Igor, my son back in Moscow, I was so thrilled to learn that he is into boxing

    He is the darker kid in white t-shirt.

    Been going to this gym for awhile now. Even training for a tournament. He is among the best in his class, I am very proud of the kid

    I was Skyping recently with him and his mom, asked him about it. What got him into it and all. Of course I hoped he'd say "I want to be like you, Papa!"

    Nah... It's just that most boys in his school are in various fighting clubs. Physical toughness is valued and respected in Russian culture.

    And if you don't know how to fight and defend yourself, you will be picked on and beat up and whatnot.

    And my boy knows that. And prefers to strike any opponent first, and hit hard enough that the other guy then cannot hit him back

    In that, he IS like daddy

    They have McDonald's and such over there too. Yet not very much obesity issues, at least with younger people (folks can gain weight with age, that's a separate issue).

    Precisely because being fat is not very acceptable there. Obesity can lead to loss of friends, social ostracism; no female would want to be with you; you could even lose your job, if your colleagues and boss become disgusted by you... There are professions, police for example, where being visibly overweight is a completely legitimate reason to fire a person, because their appearance disgraces the organization...

    A nasty thing, in many ways. Unfair and cruel to those who cannot help being that way, due to genetic or other medical factors... And much nastier even among the women than the men...

    But, it works. I have a friend over there who lost 46 kilograms (!) after he became very fat and his friends said they no longer wanted to be seen in public with him abd his wife threatened to leave him too.

    Over here, we care much more about people's self esteem and such. I don't know, maybe that's a good thing... But... Maybe not always. People who make unhealthy choices should be shown the error of their ways...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    So many schools doing away with gym class and recess doesn't help. We stuff foreign languages, computer skills, math and all sorts of stuff on our little kids all while they sit at a desk all day. Not going to do much good with all those skills if they end up with heart disease and diabetes by the time they are 20.
    No doubt. When I interact with a lot of parents, they are totally out of their minds. They want their kids taking ballet, violin, French, doing math, reading..in KINDERGARTEN. Fucking lunatics. I'm not making this shit up. They NEVER stop.

    Now, mind you, if a kid shows interest in things, I'm all for feeding him. Absolutely. But it's out of control. And it continues on into the schools, parents just pushing and pushing and pushing, making absolute asses of themselves bitching and complaining about everything at every PTO or other school meeting they can find, showing up with idiotic graphs and shit like they're making some sort of profound point: "Why did our school's test results drop .3% from last year!! The other schools in the district didn't drop! What are we doing wrong!" This in a district that doubles the statewide scores, bitching about a statistically insignificant drop, ranking at the top of the heap across the whole fucking country.

    Push push push.

    I'm not a fan, obviously.

    And the obesity is just another element to how we mismanage our child rearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I wish I had recess even as an adult! lol
    I have it. I end up on PH more than on my bike, though.

    But you guys are irresistable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I think peer pressure and some healthy "bullying" (within limits) helps. It can be a great motivator.
    I never felt motivated to get in better shape as a result of peer pressure or bullying. I did, however, feel motivated to kill someone.

    Peer pressure is not always a good thing, and bullying not ever. A bully is a terrorist-in-training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I have it. I end up on PH more than on my bike, though.

    But you guys are irresistable.
    I have a computer on my treadmill desk. Walk and type...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    I have no reason to distrust the story in the OP. It is a reliable source for military information.
    And I would never disbelieve what my sons tell me. And they are living it.

    My oldest son just left this morning for 2 years in Korea. Looks like that is where my newest grand daughter will be born.
    On the bright side, in 8 months, my youngest gets out of the Navy.

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    The military has height and weight standards. They always have. If a person reaches a certain BMI they are classified as overweight and if they reach an even higher BMI they are classified as obese. Doing some more research, I found several other credible sources that have been discussing this problem in the service for a year.

    The U.S. military has a huge problem with obesity and it's only getting worse - Military Times

    It’s not exactly clear why America's military personnel are getting fatter. Could be that 15 years of war have weakened the focus on fitness. Could be that millennials, with their penchant for sedentary activities like playing video games and killing time on social media, aren't always up to the rigors of military life. Could be all the burgers, fries, cakes and pies served in chow halls around the world.

    And maybe, too, the military is simply reflecting the nation's broader population, whose poor eating habits are fueling an alarming rise obesity rates.

    This much is clear, though: Today’s military is fatter than ever.
    And the fattest U.S. military service is ... Military Times

    The U.S. military is fatter than ever, and the Army is leading the way with more than one in 10 soldiers considered clinically overweight, according to new Defense Department data obtained by Military Times.

    Coming in a close second is the Air Force, followed by the Navy.

    Marines appear to be the fittest service members in today's force. Yet despite the Corps' culture of fitness and vigor, more than 4,800 Marines appear to be heavier than regulations allow.

    These previously undisclosed health statistics offer new insights into the military's growing problem with obesity and how it varies from service to service. The issue has broad implications for the health and readiness of today's force.
    Military data reveals obesity issue, and it's getting worse - USA Today

    SPRINGFIELD, Va. — It’s not exactly clear why America's military personnel are getting fatter. Could be that 15 years of war have weakened the focus on fitness. Could be that millennials, with their penchant for sedentary activities like playing video games and killing time on social media, aren't always up to the rigors of military life. Could be all the burgers, fries, cakes and pies served in chow halls around the world.

    And maybe, too, the military is simply reflecting the nation's broader population, whose poor eating habits are fueling an alarming rise obesity rates.

    This much is clear, though: Today’s military is fatter than ever.
    Too Fat to Fight: Is the Obesity Crisis a National Security Risk? - NBC News

    The rates mirror those in the military. According to the 2011 Health Related Behaviors Survey, the latest year for which numbers are available, among active duty service members more than 50 percent of males of all races across all age groups were classified as overweight, according to their BMI (body mass index). More than 34 percent of active duty females were classified as overweight.

    In the military, a candidate’s BMI is the current standard for determining his or her ability to meet the physical requirements of enlistment. A BMI of 18.5 to 24.9 is considered normal. Twenty-five to 29.9 is considered overweight. A BMI of 30 or higher is considered obese.
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