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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    What the fuck is up with you and the person attack mission upon me? I didn't say anything about Michelle Obama's healthy nutrition option, nor did I say anything about these soldiers not being able to serve. Did I? Are you not able to read? I posted the story. In the story, it says that 13% of the soldiers are obese. It also says that the Army has more obese Soldiers than ever before. That is the story on the Army's website. I linked it, you can read it yourself.

    I have not disparaged our military in any way by posting this story.
    So what are you suggesting we do with the fatties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    So what are you suggesting we do with the fatties?
    Run their asses off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    So what are you suggesting we do with the fatties?
    I believe we need to figure out what has changed and revisit diet, training, and standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    It's been over a decade since I retired, I still wake up bright and early each day. Even when I try to sleep in, it just isn't going to happen. When I was getting ready for BASIC training, I had a problem that not many had... I missed the weight requirements for being underweight. That's right, I had to weigh 150 lbs and no matter what I did, I could not hit that mark. The recruiter stuffed me full of bananas and chocolate milk, and a doctor looked at the scale's needle from an angle. Last year, I reached the heaviest that I have ever been, just under 250 lbs at 6'1". I dieted and got back to 182 lbs where I feel comfortable.

    The service was big on those weigh ins when I was serving. Anyone who didn't meet weigh in, had to go for the pinch test where they measured body fat. If your BMI was over, you could be stopped from reenlisting or even chaptered out. A lot has changed in the military. When I was in, PT was a unit function. That has changed in many units. Now, soldiers will have to log what activity they did for their physical training. I do not know how well this is monitored. Falling out of a five mile morning run was not acceptable.
    I take it then that you believe the fatties need to lose weight or hit the road? I would tend to agree with active duty soldiers however there are many in positions sitting behind a desk and been there years and are not going to be soldiers, firing them because of their weight is kinda stupid.

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    The Army has more obese Soldiers than ever before.

    Just take a look at our Fat Ass Commander In Chief. He really sets a bad example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad
    "A BMI of 18.5 to 24.9 is considered normal. Twenty-five to 29.9 is considered overweight. A BMI of 30 or higher is considered obese."
    Is this not a similar standard to the civilian population? I.e., notwithstanding the military's justifiably stricter standards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    I take it then that you believe the fatties need to lose weight or hit the road? I would tend to agree with active duty soldiers however there are many in positions sitting behind a desk and been there years and are not going to be soldiers, firing them because of their weight is kinda stupid.
    I believe there are various standards based on age. But one has to admit the perception of seeing a fat soldier or a fat fireman is poor. People rely on them for their survival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    I take it then that you believe the fatties need to lose weight or hit the road? I would tend to agree with active duty soldiers however there are many in positions sitting behind a desk and been there years and are not going to be soldiers, firing them because of their weight is kinda stupid.
    I believe that a fit military fighting force is essential to our military. The service needs to not lower the standards but rather to visit diet and training to figure out why this is going the wrong direction. Every soldier and officer in the US Army with the exception of the chaplain, is a combat infantryman first, then his or her MOS second. If a soldier cannot qualify with his or her assigned weapon, they can't be in the Army. If a soldier cannot meet physical training standards, they cannot be in the Army. If a soldier is obese, he or she needs to lose the weight or separate from the military.

    We don't allow people to serve who have asthma and can't run. We don't allow people to serve that cannot lift a rucksack. You can't start saying it's okay for the unit clerk to be obese. That unit clerk may very well be out on a patrol, do you want to have to carry them back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HadEnough2 View Post
    The Army has more obese Soldiers than ever before.

    Just take a look at our Fat Ass Commander In Chief. He really sets a bad example.
    The articles I quoted this morning are all from prior to President Trump taking office. Next excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Is this not a similar standard to the civilian population? I.e., notwithstanding the military's justifiably stricter standards?
    I do not know the civilian standards but they sound similar.

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