Members banned from this thread: Pragmatist


Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst ... 2345 LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 50
Thanks Tree39Thanks

Thread: Doctors Warm To Single-Payer Health Care

  1. #31
    Moderator Nicnam's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    10,931
    Thanks
    3282

    From
    :> )
    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    That is a fucking stupid supposition that only dumbfucks believe.
    Thread Ban Notice

    Pragmatist has been banned from this thread.

    Please do not refer or respond to their posts.

    Thank You.


  2. #32
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    30,394
    Thanks
    23936

    From
    On a hill
    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    I wonder what it costs to have a whole room full of them? Couple hundred grand? It's amazing that so many people are just downright fucking stupid.
    Add pay for assistants to rent for the space for assistants to work in, and office equipment for them to work with, office furniture, and it s a couple hundred grand easy.

  3. #33
    Moderator HCProf's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    17,238
    Thanks
    9288

    From
    USA
    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    I don't favor single payer, but I do support a slimmed down version of the ACA that would be the base coverage for everyone. If people needed or desired more coverage, they could use a private wrap-around insurance. Single payer could very well mean long lines and waiting.
    This is how France does it. Everyone gets basic coverage and if you want more, you can purchase a supplement. We are seeing long lines and waiting anyway...the baby boomers are a giant population and we do not have enough primary care doctors to see them. It will get worse when we are Medicare age and visiting the doctor more often. You will also still need office staff. Medical codes are used for statistical tracking of disease/treatment and you still need to file claims for budgetary purposes.
    Thanks from bajisima and Puzzling Evidence

  4. #34
    Moderator HCProf's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    17,238
    Thanks
    9288

    From
    USA
    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Or it might mean doctors have more time to see patients, and lower the cost of medical care because they don't need a staff to handle claims, pre-approvals, etc.
    Medicare and Medicaid requires all of that. That would not change. How would a practice or hospital know how productive they are and how much money they need without the information included on a claim form? What will reduce is the 100's of different insurance policies to navigate through...each one being different. You still have to manage cost, the budget is not unlimited.

  5. #35
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    30,394
    Thanks
    23936

    From
    On a hill
    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Medicare and Medicaid requires all of that. That would not change. How would a practice or hospital know how productive they are and how much money they need without the information included on a claim form? What will reduce is the 100's of different insurance policies to navigate through...each one being different. You still have to manage cost, the budget is not unlimited.
    This organization has been working on this plan for a long time. They actually have a bill on the table with a long list of cosponsors - unfortunately, all Democrat.

    What is Single Payer?
    Single-payer national health insurance, also known as “Medicare for all,” is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health care financing, but the delivery of care remains largely in private hands. Under a single-payer system, all residents of the U.S. would be covered for all medically necessary services, including doctor, hospital, preventive, long-term care, mental health, reproductive health care, dental, vision, prescription drug and medical supply costs.

    The program would be funded by the savings obtained from replacing today’s inefficient, profit-oriented, multiple insurance payers with a single streamlined, nonprofit, public payer, and by modest new taxes based on ability to pay. Premiums would disappear; 95 percent of all households would save money. Patients would no longer face financial barriers to care such as co-pays and deductibles, and would regain free choice of doctor and hospital. Doctors would regain autonomy over patient care.

    The Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act, H.R. 676, based on PNHP’s AJPH-published Physicians’ Proposal, would establish an American single-payer health insurance system.

    What is Single Payer? | Physicians for a National Health Program
    H.R.676 - Expanded & Improved Medicare For All Act

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...%22%5D%7D&r=26

  6. #36
    Galactic Ruler Spookycolt's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2012
    Posts
    60,189
    Thanks
    11009

    From
    By the wall
    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Medicare and Medicaid requires all of that. That would not change. How would a practice or hospital know how productive they are and how much money they need without the information included on a claim form? What will reduce is the 100's of different insurance policies to navigate through...each one being different. You still have to manage cost, the budget is not unlimited.
    My ex did this for a hospital before she became a teacher.

    Someone comes in she gets their insurance information and does whatever she did after that.

    Its not like it takes a long time.

  7. #37
    Veteran Member bajisima's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    42,060
    Thanks
    24789

    From
    New Hampshire
    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Its funny how all of your doctors have no assistants to deal with insurance.

    My doctor has a whole room full of them, all he does is the medicine.

    They set up appointments also.

    I would suggest that you all tell your doctors that they can hire people to do all of this for them.
    That's then added to the cost of the doctor visit. Which makes costs rise. The more people the doctor needs to employ to do his/her paperwork, insurance stuff costs us in the long run.

  8. #38
    Veteran Member bajisima's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    42,060
    Thanks
    24789

    From
    New Hampshire
    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Or it might mean doctors have more time to see patients, and lower the cost of medical care because they don't need a staff to handle claims, pre-approvals, etc.
    There is no question that implementing single payer is going to have dramatic effects initially. We already have shortages of primary doctors so some areas will suffer and the wait times will increase. However, with no in network/out of network coverage that would mean all doctors would be open for everyone. Then if they could figure out how to make med school more affordable they could have more students to offer more coverage in areas that are lacking.

  9. #39
    Banned Camp
    Joined
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    53,875
    Thanks
    19115

    From
    america
    I figure we will get Socialized medicine, right about the time I am getting ready to retire.

    Then, the "bureaucrats" will look at my file, and say "Fuck this looser! Now that he has retired, he is a drain on the system, and, a fucking type I diabetic as well. Give him some painkillers, but, don't spend too much money on trying to keep him alive and well..."

  10. #40
    Veteran Member bajisima's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    42,060
    Thanks
    24789

    From
    New Hampshire
    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    I figure we will get Socialized medicine, right about the time I am getting ready to retire.

    Then, the "bureaucrats" will look at my file, and say "Fuck this looser! Now that he has retired, he is a drain on the system, and, a fucking type I diabetic as well. Give him some painkillers, but, don't spend too much money on trying to keep him alive and well..."
    Lol My kids have already said we should all be cut off at age 70. Too much of a strain on the environment and society. No longer productive, get out of here! lol Its going to be like Soylent Green or something.
    Thanks from Ian Jeffrey

Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst ... 2345 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Single-Payer Health Care Bill Introduced In California Senate
    By labrea in forum Political Discussion
    Replies: 594
    Last Post: 28th March 2017, 07:31 AM
  2. Doctors Call For Universal Health Care
    By MaryAnne in forum Healthcare
    Replies: 156
    Last Post: 10th May 2016, 02:59 AM
  3. How Would Single Payer Health Care Be Funded?
    By Babba in forum Opinion Polls
    Replies: 434
    Last Post: 25th November 2013, 09:28 AM
  4. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 19th February 2010, 12:26 PM
  5. Doctors for Health Care Reform
    By Bourne in forum Healthcare
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 31st July 2009, 05:29 PM

Tags for this Thread


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed