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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    You don't know how he funded the wall yet.

    If you know why don't you share it with the group.

    Or is this just you making shit up again?
    He is funding the wall by getting the money from Congress...thus adding to the deficit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    He is funding the wall by getting the money from Congress...thus adding to the deficit....
    And?

    How much did Obamacare add to the deficit?

    Did that bother you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    And?

    How much did Obamacare add to the deficit?

    Did that bother you?
    The ACA funded itself with taxes on billionaires, does that bother you? Read my sig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    The ACA funded itself with taxes on billionaires, does that bother you? Read my sig.
    You aren't very informed.

    Obama's own words:

    Over the first 10 years, the ACA adds $940 billion to the*Federal budget.

    https://www.thebalance.com/2010-pati...re-act-3306063

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    You don't know how he funded the wall yet.

    If you know why don't you share it with the group.

    Or is this just you making shit up again?
    Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall, why does he need taxpayer funding unless he lied?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall, why does he need taxpayer funding unless he lied?
    I missed the part where he said when and how they would pay.

    Do you have a link for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    You aren't very informed.

    Obama's own words:

    Over the first 10 years, the ACA adds $940 billion to the*Federal budget.

    https://www.thebalance.com/2010-pati...re-act-3306063
    Did you read the paragraph below that? Obviously not.

    Over the first 10 years, the ACA adds $940 billion to the*Federal budget. A*study by the Congressional Budget Office*said the Affordable Care Act will lower the*budget deficit*by $143 billion over these same ten years. How?*The Act offsets its costs by:
    Lowering payments to hospitals.
    Increasing Medicare taxes on higher income households.
    Assessing penalties on employers who don't offer, and individuals who don't take, health care insurance.
    Assessing taxes on various health related activities.
    Reducing overhead by consolidating the higher education loan program with the Pell Grant program.

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    Under the current bill, families making less than $10,000 would lose, on average, more than $2,500 in annual benefits under the bill, once it is fully phased in. Families making more than $1 million a year would get tax cuts averaging about $50,000, according to the analysis by two nonpartisan research groups, the Health Policy Center and the Tax Policy Center." Trumpcare!!!
    Where do you think that $50,000 tax cut was coming from if not the ACA taxes?

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    How many times has this been pointed out to you? It is like you have some sort of mental disorder that does not allow you to comprehend simple concepts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Did you read the paragraph below that? Obviously not.

    Over the first 10 years, the ACA adds $940 billion to the*Federal budget. A*study by the Congressional Budget Office*said the Affordable Care Act will lower the*budget deficit*by $143 billion over these same ten years. How?*The Act offsets its costs by:
    Lowering payments to hospitals.
    Increasing Medicare taxes on higher income households.
    Assessing penalties on employers who don't offer, and individuals who don't take, health care insurance.
    Assessing taxes on various health related activities.
    Reducing overhead by consolidating the higher education loan program with the Pell Grant program.
    Hmmmm what is 940-143 again?

    Which number is larger?

    C'mon dude, this is basic math.

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