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    US has the worst rate of maternal deaths in the developed world

    U.S. Has The Worst Rate of Maternal Deaths In The Developed World : NPR

    Nearly threes times the number of women die in the US as do in the UK from complications of pregnancy and childbirth.

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    Is it because our health care system is based upon wealth instead of humanity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius the God View Post
    Is it because our health care system is based upon wealth instead of humanity?
    Essentially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    U.S. Has The Worst Rate of Maternal Deaths In The Developed World : NPR

    Nearly threes times the number of women die in the US as do in the UK from complications of pregnancy and childbirth.

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    There's been a lot of discussion, over the years, of the US's shamefully low life expectancy and shamefully high infant mortality rate. Since there's a whole cottage industry of propagandists kept on retainer at the right-wing think tanks to explain away such facts, one clever counter-factual argument that emerged was that the US situation was better than it appeared, but that our infant mortality was driven up and our life expectancy driven down by way of the US counting preemie births while most peer nations ignore any infant death of a premature infant that occurs before a certain period of time has elapsed. There was never anything to this argument, but it was a popular assertion since, if it were true, it would indeed result in us having an artificially high infant mortality rate and artificially low life expectancy, relative to our peers.

    The reason we know that's not, in fact, what's going on, is because of these other measures, like maternal mortality and childhood mortality (measures of mortality for kids in various age ranges beyond infancy) show the same pattern of data. When it comes to almost any of these large measures of public health outcomes, the US is a complete embarrassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius the God View Post
    Is it because our health care system is based upon wealth instead of humanity?
    Maybe if you actually read the article you could find some clues??

    Sorry.....crazy talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
    There's been a lot of discussion, over the years, of the US's shamefully low life expectancy and shamefully high infant mortality rate. Since there's a whole cottage industry of propagandists kept on retainer at the right-wing think tanks to explain away such facts, one clever counter-factual argument that emerged was that the US situation was better than it appeared, but that our infant mortality was driven up and our life expectancy driven down by way of the US counting preemie births while most peer nations ignore any infant death of a premature infant that occurs before a certain period of time has elapsed. There was never anything to this argument, but it was a popular assertion since, if it were true, it would indeed result in us having an artificially high infant mortality rate and artificially low life expectancy, relative to our peers.

    The reason we know that's not, in fact, what's going on, is because of these other measures, like maternal mortality and childhood mortality (measures of mortality for kids in various age ranges beyond infancy) show the same pattern of data. When it comes to almost any of these large measures of public health outcomes, the US is a complete embarrassment.

    The story is about mothers not getting appropriate attention or other complications. Not babies. And the article lists several interesting reasons.

    The babies are statistically doing pretty well.
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    How can this be now that we have Obamacare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    U.S. Has The Worst Rate of Maternal Deaths In The Developed World : NPR

    Nearly threes times the number of women die in the US as do in the UK from complications of pregnancy and childbirth.

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    And do you know why? Crack and meth whores. And drugs drive our infant mortality rate up too. So are you calling for stepping up drug enforcement?

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    For anyone who is actually interested in the issue here is the embedded link:

    What's Behind America's Maternal Death Rate? : NPR


    Includes a couple of very moving/tragic real life stories which have occurred. Along with some explanations for how these situations arise.

    And no, the conclusions are not a blast on Obamacare. Nor the capitalist system. More identifying some gaps that need fixed.
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    The U.S.ís maternal deaths cannot be compared to other countries. The criteria are not the same between countries and the heterogeneity of the U.S. vis-ŗ-vis other countries is not taken into consideration.

    The criteria:

    The U.S. defines maternal deaths from the start of pregnancy until one year after the end of the pregnancy. The calculation that the U.S.ís maternal deaths are compared to internationally is WHOís definition of maternal death:

    Maternal death is the death of a woman while pregnant or within 42 days of termination of pregnancy, irrespective of the duration and site of the pregnancy, from any cause related to or aggravated by the pregnancy or its management but not from accidental or incidental causes. To facilitate the identification of maternal deaths in circumstances in which cause of death attribution is inadequate, a new category has been introduced: Pregnancy-related death is defined as the death of a woman while pregnant or within 42 days of termination of pregnancy, irrespective of the cause of death.

    There is no calculation or filter in the WHO, UNICEF, UNFPA, World Bank Group, or the United Population Division Maternal Mortality Estimation Inter-Agency Groupís calculations from 1990 to their latest data of 2015.

    The heterogeneity:

    What is not taken into consideration is the lifestyle and behavior that are extraneous to medicine: American women are becoming pregnant much later in life coupled with the highest rate of obesity in the world, high diabetes rates, high blood pressure, etc. than other countries.
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