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    I cannot speak for others, but knowing there is God who loves me in spite of all I have done wrong brings about an inner peace for me. That is my personal faith.
    pretty sure you could say the same thing about you mother.

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    A five minute review of this website would show you a whole lot of deeply religious people whose hearts and souls are absolutely torn up with anger, bitterness, resentment, paranoia, negativity and senseless anxiety. Just as many religious people as non-religious.

    Don’t look to your religion to provide inner peace. It’s INNER peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    pretty sure you could say the same thing about you mother.
    You never met my mother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    A five minute review of this website would show you a whole lot of deeply religious people whose hearts and souls are absolutely torn up with anger, bitterness, resentment, paranoia, negativity and senseless anxiety. Just as many religious people as non-religious.

    Don’t look to your religion to provide inner peace. It’s INNER peace.
    I don't have the feeling you understand what "peace" is. Peace is not a bio-psychological product. "Inner peace" means to find an essential way how to keep peace within the own soul. It means not to "keep calm" or to become apathetic, also when 27 people are murdered during a church service in Texas. Their place is in heaven - they don't need peace any longer - they are a part of the peace now on their own. Some will follow ... everyone will follow them one day on this way of peace - everywhere in the world - but their people who had to stay on Earth will live in a hell now. Now the relatives and friends will need a lot of inner peace and strength not to lose themselves - for example to lose themselves in senseless hate. So for sure they will need their religion - their rebound in god - much more than anything else in the moment. God be with them.

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    Inner peace?

    It isn't IBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    A five minute review of this website would show you a whole lot of deeply religious people whose hearts and souls are absolutely torn up with anger, bitterness, resentment, paranoia, negativity and senseless anxiety. Just as many religious people as non-religious.

    Don’t look to your religion to provide inner peace. It’s INNER peace.
    not only is inner peace INNER, but it shows in your OUTWARD dealings with others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaangalewa View Post
    I don't have the feeling you understand what "peace" is. Peace is not a bio-psychological product. "Inner peace" means to find an essential way how to keep peace within the own soul. It means not to "keep calm" or to become apathetic, also when 27 people are murdered during a church service in Texas. Their place is in heaven - they don't need peace any longer - they are a part of the peace now on their own. Some will follow ... everyone will follow them one day on this way of peace - everywhere in the world - but their people who had to stay on Earth will live in a hell now. Now the relatives and friends will need a lot of inner peace and strength not to lose themselves - for example to lose themselves in senseless hate. So for sure they will need their religion - their rebound in god - much more than anything else in the moment. God be with them.

    I don’t know why you would say that. Nothing I wrote contradicts with what you wrote.

    Like bonehead said, ones inner struggles are almost always fully displayed in the way one reacts to others.

    Show me someone with a Facebook feed blasting some political party or race or culture or immigrants or whatever - and Ill show you someone being chewed up inside with their own demons.

    I know a vet with PTSD who cant watch or discuss sports because it will trigger the anger. The sense of injustice he’s got trapped in his brain overwhelms him. Completely overwhelms him if he lets it. To the point where a bad referee call can make his kids afraid of him. Like -REALLY scared of him.

    That’s the opposite of inner peace.

    Religion can provide comfort but it’s silly to think it’s the ONLY thing that could provide it. And sillier to think that someone who doesn’t believe in an afterlife would somehow “decide” to believe it because it would be more comforting.

    If you don’t believe you’ll see your loved one in heaven then you don’t believe it. Period. No matter how much more comforting it would make their passing for you.

    None of us believe in Valhalla, or Thor, or Raven, or the Great Turtle. What do we suffer for not believing in elfs, spirits, pixies, Aphrodite, Shiva, Budda, Allah?

    A religious person doesn’t believe in 99% of religions. Disbelieves all of them, except one. The non-religious person just disbelieves one more than that. In the same way.

    Do you believe in reincarnation? No? Wouldn’t you be happier if you did?


    Sure.... but ... you don’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    I don’t know why you would say that. Nothing I wrote contradicts with what you wrote.
    You said it needs no religion to find inner peace - I said to live in inner peace needs religion (= the rebound in god).

    Like bonehead said, ones inner struggles are almost always fully displayed in the way one reacts to others.
    And I said "peace" is not a bio-psychological quality. If someone lives in peace he has not a guarantee not to become a victim of a car accident for example.

    Show me someone with a Facebook feed
    Facebook is for me only a word and a completely unknown institution.

    blasting some political party or race or culture or immigrants or whatever - and Ill show you someone being chewed up inside with their own demons.
    I heard about that facebook is full of hate messages. And the word demon is a little difficult in this context. Demons are not only devils but are also able to be angels.

    I know a vet with PTSD
    "vet with PTSD"? ... Tierarzt mit posttraumatischem Stresssyndrom ... Got it. But I don't understand how a vet has a PTSD. I thought normally only soldiers or victims of accidents suffer a PTSD.

    who cant watch or discuss sports because it will trigger the anger. The sense of injustice he’s got trapped in his brain overwhelms him. Completely overwhelms him if he lets it. To the point where a bad referee call can make his kids afraid of him. Like -REALLY scared of him.

    That’s the opposite of inner peace.
    Strange - very strange. I would suggest him to make a psychological therapy in such a case.

    Religion can provide comfort but it’s silly to think it’s the ONLY thing that could provide it.
    War is hell - so peace is heaven.

    And sillier to think that someone who doesn’t believe in an afterlife would somehow “decide” to believe it because it would be more comforting.
    And what I am in your hierarchy of empty phrases now ? Most silliest? I guess you like to show with your contracludings that you are the most intelligent man who ever had lived - with an ultimative knowledge about, what he doesn't need for "inner peace".

    If you don’t believe you’ll see your loved one in heaven then you don’t believe it. Period. No matter how much more comforting it would make their passing for you.
    You say you don't need for inner peace to see your loved in heaven. But if you see them there?

    None of us believe in Valhalla, or Thor, or Raven, or the Great Turtle.
    What's not correct. Not in case of the people I call "us".

    What do we suffer for not believing in elfs, spirits, pixies, Aphrodite, Shiva, Budda, Allah?
    Who is "we" now? And what do you know for example about the 4 noble truths? Could it not be useful to know something about, if you like to say sentences like "What do we suffer for ..."?

    A religious person doesn’t believe in 99% of religions. Disbelieves all of them, except one. The non-religious person
    Never met such a person. Also atheism is a belief. The problem is the contradiction of lots of modern atheists to believe not to believe.

    just disbelieves one more than that. In the same way.

    Do you believe in reincarnation? No? Wouldn’t you be happier if you did?


    Sure.... but ... you don’t.
    Why should I? If god decided, decides or will decide to reincarnate me in this world here again after my death, then he will do so. Who am I to give god orders what to do or not to do? What's the problem? Better a second chance than to have to go in hell, isn't it?

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