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    Republicans do not care, the uninsured in the south are just throw a way pawns to them in any case...
    Yup. The harder it is for these lower middle class people to get affordable healthcare, the more depressing their lives will be, so the more they'll cling to the fearmongers they're currently voting for, who will reward them with more destruction. At the rate they're cutting taxes there won't even be money to pay for the police force to keep up with the crimes committed by all the desperate people.

    And if you can't pay for the police force to keep up with the desperation-driven crimes, then how will they ever find the money to pay for medical services? Or so the "reasoning" will go after Republicans will make darn sure the public find themselves in that mess.

    Spiral of destruction that Republican lawmakers are itching to inflict -- and adding a trillion dollars to the debt to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Doesn't change that Republicans are actively trying to push us away from the direction of Massachusetts and toward the direction of Louisiana and Mississippi.
    Republicans obviously only want the wealthy to be healthy,educated and vote. The rest of us are subhumans to them and fit only to be their servants/slaves.

    There's a reason why Trump keeps a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed.


    Donald Trump 'kept book of Adolf Hitler's speeches in his bedside ...
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    Mar 20, 2017 - Donald Trump reportedly owned a copy of Adolf Hitler's speeches and kept them in his bedside cabinet. ... author, wrote: “Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, 'My New Order', which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Republicans obviously only want the wealthy to be healthy,educated and vote. The rest of us are subhumans to them and fit only to be their servants/slaves.

    There's a reason why Trump keeps a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed.


    Donald Trump 'kept book of Adolf Hitler's speeches in his bedside ...
    www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas › US politics
    Mar 20, 2017 - Donald Trump reportedly owned a copy of Adolf Hitler's speeches and kept them in his bedside cabinet. ... author, wrote: “Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, 'My New Order', which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.




    Donald Trump's ex-wife: Trump kept book of Hitler's speeches by bed ...
    www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers...
    Sep 1, 2015 - According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald Trump, now a leading Republican presidential candidate, kept a book of Hitler's speeches near his bed. "Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana ...



    But the crazy thing is the wealthy only amounts to a tiny fraction of the population and they are generally located in blue states. The GOP gets far more of the lower income, and no college vote than democrats. Thats quite the misfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Bajisima,

    Wait, are you saying the insurance capital of the US has always had the highest number of insured people....
    That would be Connecticut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms Amelia,

    Hmmm, too bad that comparison has little or nothing to do with health care.
    Looks like it actually does. Math is math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Looks like it actually does. Math is math.
    The sound of a deflating balloon of pomposity....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Yup. The harder it is for these lower middle class people to get affordable healthcare, the more depressing their lives will be, so the more they'll cling to the fearmongers they're currently voting for, who will reward them with more destruction. At the rate they're cutting taxes there won't even be money to pay for the police force to keep up with the crimes committed by all the desperate people.

    And if you can't pay for the police force to keep up with the desperation-driven crimes, then how will they ever find the money to pay for medical services? Or so the "reasoning" will go after Republicans will make darn sure the public find themselves in that mess.

    Spiral of destruction that Republican lawmakers are itching to inflict -- and adding a trillion dollars to the debt to do it.
    Another element of this is the messages that people receive. Conservatives have done everything they can to kill messaging from government and other non-profit entities about health related issues: the importance of exercise, the importance of healthy eating, the importance of regularly checking stuff like cholesterol and blood sugar. In the meantime, we get a constant barrage of messages telling us to indulge ourselves and not live in disciplined ways--by the people selling us the food and other indulgences. Participation in the health care system at least gets these messages in front of people more often.

    And then there's the way we subsidize food (grains and dairy, mostly) that is already overeaten by most Americans. That lowers the cost of food that makes us collectively less healthy, on a cost-per-calorie basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    But the crazy thing is the wealthy only amounts to a tiny fraction of the population and they are generally located in blue states. The GOP gets far more of the lower income, and no college vote than democrats. Thats quite the misfire.
    The GOP is good at distracting people from attending to their own self-interest when they vote. They win on issues like abortion, guns, and "the war on Christmas."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Doesn't change that Republicans are actively trying to push us away from the direction of Massachusetts and toward the direction of Louisiana and Mississippi.
    The Republicans have there on way of controlling over population of our planet. The poor die first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Another element of this is the messages that people receive. Conservatives have done everything they can to kill messaging from government and other non-profit entities about health related issues: the importance of exercise, the importance of healthy eating, the importance of regularly checking stuff like cholesterol and blood sugar. In the meantime, we get a constant barrage of messages telling us to indulge ourselves and not live in disciplined ways--by the people selling us the food and other indulgences. Participation in the health care system at least gets these messages in front of people more often.

    And then there's the way we subsidize food (grains and dairy, mostly) that is already overeaten by most Americans. That lowers the cost of food that makes us collectively less healthy, on a cost-per-calorie basis.
    The problem there I think might be to look where those items (dairy, grains) are grown and how their perceptions lie. Many come from the midwest and those states cant get much redder. I still recall reading as a youngster about how democratic farmers once were. Loyal to the democratic party. Now they seem to be all republicans. Around here the redder parts of New England are all dairy farms and they keep saying how "their way of life is disappearing" and how the "elite are trying to force them into the cities." So they are very republican. Kind of reminds me of the coal miners and steel workers and how they used to be so left leaning and now arent. Weird dynamics.
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