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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Nobody wants the migrant worker fruit picking jobs
    For one thing most migrants can work circles around most domestics. I've seen 8-10 man teams of migrants prune and hoe around vines, pick up the prunings AND plow the medians in a twenty five to thirty acre vineyard. Starting at 6am and ending by 2 pm. Some years it's too wet to do all those tasks at once but not this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    For one thing most migrants can work circles around most domestics. I've seen 8-10 man teams of migrants prune and hoe around vines, pick up the prunings AND plow the medians in a twenty five to thirty acre vineyard. Starting at 6am and ending by 2 pm. Some years it's too wet to do all those tasks at once but not this year.
    I get sick of the "importing poverty" meme, as if American workers are missing out on all theses great jobs being done by immigrants, we are at 4% unemployment, everyone that wants a fucking job, has a fucking job. The problem is that the fucking jobs suck, the pay sucks, the benefits suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    For one thing most migrants can work circles around most domestics. I've seen 8-10 man teams of migrants prune and hoe around vines, pick up the prunings AND plow the medians in a twenty five to thirty acre vineyard. Starting at 6am and ending by 2 pm. Some years it's too wet to do all those tasks at once but not this year.
    Ms. Panzareta,

    Liberals do love slave labor when it means they don't have to pay very much for their products, wot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms. Panzareta,

    Liberals do love slave labor when it means they don't have to pay very much for their products, wot?
    All those Central Valley "Liberals" hiring migrant workers to pick their crops? people like your buddy Nunes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    All those Central Valley "Liberals" hiring migrant workers to pick their crops? people like your buddy Nunes?
    Mr. Gaffer,

    Try and keep up. She was talking about wine growing regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    The life expectancy of a country is dictated by the behaviors, lifestyles, and heterogeneity of the population of a country. Great medical care cannot overcome smoking, obesity, bad diets, automobile accidents, and drug related deaths--which the opiate crisis was caused by Obamacare). These numbers cause the US to have a lower life expectancy than some countries, but regarding survival rates for cancer and heart disease, etc., the US has the best outcomes.
    Obama is responsible for the opiod crisis!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    The poor have access to safe neighborhoods if they did not make neighborhoods unsafe.

    The poor have access to healthy food, which is cheaper, but choose to eat unhealthy food.

    The poor have access to healthcare under Obamacare, but the poor cannot pay the out of pocket expense under Obamacare.
    A diet of beans and rice is pretty fucking healthy, and it's cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms. Labrea,

    Wow, so you say US life expectancy is dropping primarily because of voluntary life-style choices causing poor health?

    "The grim trend stems from a toxic mixture of more drug- and alcohol-related deaths and more heart disease and obesity in many parts of the country."
    Frankly, firearms have a lot to do with our nation's poor life expectancy statistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Obama is responsible for the opiod crisis!
    According to the data and the law, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    A diet of beans and rice is pretty fucking healthy, and it's cheap.
    Fresh vegetables, etc. are just as cheap, healthy, and cost less than fast food.

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