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    Woman dies in Spain after bee-cupuncture

    Woman dies after ‘acupuncture’ session that used live bees instead of needles

    A woman in Spain died after undergoing a supposedly routine “bee acupuncture” treatment and then suffering an allergic reaction that put her in a coma.

    The alternative medicine procedure is more or less what its name conjures up: Instead of a needle, an acupuncture practitioner injects bee venom into the body at certain points. In some instances, live bees are used to sting and inject venom into the person directly.



    I cannot imagine how anybody could think this would be a good idea. According to the Wikipedia page on the subject, "[the] health benefits [of apitherapy] remain unsupported by evidence-based medicine."
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    How dumb can one be believing this practice would have therapeutic effects?

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    What is in bee venom ? Something able to cure some deseases ? It seems to be used against arthritis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Woman dies after ‘acupuncture’ session that used live bees instead of needles

    A woman in Spain died after undergoing a supposedly routine “bee acupuncture” treatment and then suffering an allergic reaction that put her in a coma.

    The alternative medicine procedure is more or less what its name conjures up: Instead of a needle, an acupuncture practitioner injects bee venom into the body at certain points. In some instances, live bees are used to sting and inject venom into the person directly.



    I cannot imagine how anybody could think this would be a good idea. According to the Wikipedia page on the subject, "[the] health benefits [of apitherapy] remain unsupported by evidence-based medicine."
    dunno about this one. there are many people I know personally who swear by using bee sting therapy (only the actual bee sting) for treatment of arthritis when medical methods fail. it works for them - so they say.

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    Isnt this done in reputable research facilities? Some hospitals use freeze dried bee venom for arthritis and fibromyalgia. I imagine they arent supposed to do this anywhere else but a hospital or reputable medical facility.

    https://www.drugs.com/pro/wasp-and-bee-venom.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Isnt this done in reputable research facilities? Some hospitals use freeze dried bee venom for arthritis and fibromyalgia. I imagine they arent supposed to do this anywhere else but a hospital or reputable medical facility.

    https://www.drugs.com/pro/wasp-and-bee-venom.html
    Not always.

    I know a guy who raises bees, and that is a good thing.

    He sells honey and that's OK, too.

    He also believes in bee sting therapy.

    If I remember correctly, he gives himself some of this "treatment" occasionally.

    And he does it periodically to ward off disease and sickness, IOW even when there's nothing wrong.

    I'll may see him tomorrow, and I'll ask him if I get a chance...

    Maybe he'll give me a free sample...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Isnt this done in reputable research facilities? Some hospitals use freeze dried bee venom for arthritis and fibromyalgia. I imagine they arent supposed to do this anywhere else but a hospital or reputable medical facility.

    https://www.drugs.com/pro/wasp-and-bee-venom.html
    according to my source (not an expert), the method is to apply live honey bees to the affected area and then remove the stingers after they sting. use only about a dozen bees per session in only one area. repeat 3 times weekly at maximum. of course, this would only be done on persons not allergic to honey bee stings and only when standard medical treatments offer no results. the treatment relieves the pain and restores movement to the affected area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    How dumb can one be believing this practice would have therapeutic effects?
    Some swear by it for pain control and stopping uncontrollable movements such as MS patients often experience.

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    I was once attacked by yellow jackets whom were perturbed by my driving a mower over their home.
    Sun was going down, I was in a hurry and Yowza, 30 or so stings ,
    screaming I ran to house, then to hospital, and walk in in treatment!!!!!
    I guess I was a little blue but I was impressed!!!!

    I then became a beekeeper hobbiest.

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    You can buy bees online and sent US mail.
    Of course, the post office may call you because the outside of the package has bees.
    The queen in in the middle and they all want her. They will not leave her, which is why they are still there after transit.
    You can have a hive anywhere but access to water and flowers needed. Roof tops in cities!!!!

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