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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    ^^This^^

    I've told both my kids, do not substitute your phone for actual personal relationships. Too many kids these days focus more on how many "likes" they get or how many followers they have, rather than try to cultivate talking to people one on one.
    True, but you won't get a sexually transmitted disease from a smart-phone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    True, but you won't get a sexually transmitted disease from a smart-phone.

    Well I'm pretty confident that neither of my kids use Tinder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    This was a good article. Teens don't even want to drive anymore. Most of my friends, literally had to force their kids to get their drivers license so they didn't have to haul them all over the place. I remember marking my calendar down to the day I could get my license..4 days after I turned 16. It was the path to freedom which included a lot of socialization. I have college students who did not have a drivers license until they were 25 and it was a necessity to travel to their clinical sites.
    Yea I put my foot down on that one. My kids drove at 15 (legal age to learn here) whether they liked it or not. I didnt drive until I was in my late 20s and it was horrible. You need to be young and stupid (lol) and get it out of your system. Waiting until they are too old is not healthy. By then they have kids or a job and its not a great idea to still be a new driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    This was a good article. Teens don't even want to drive anymore. Most of my friends, literally had to force their kids to get their drivers license so they didn't have to haul them all over the place. I remember marking my calendar down to the day I could get my license..4 days after I turned 16. It was the path to freedom which included a lot of socialization. I have college students who did not have a drivers license until they were 25 and it was a necessity to travel to their clinical sites.
    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Yea I put my foot down on that one. My kids drove at 15 (legal age to learn here) whether they liked it or not. I didnt drive until I was in my late 20s and it was horrible. You need to be young and stupid (lol) and get it out of your system. Waiting until they are too old is not healthy. By then they have kids or a job and its not a great idea to still be a new driver.

    Unless one lives a major urban environment with abundant public transportation, am thinking it would be a huge handicap not having the ability to drive a car.

    These are surprising revelations. Am personally not aware of anyone who doesn't drive. (Excepting the old/infirm.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Yea I put my foot down on that one. My kids drove at 15 (legal age to learn here) whether they liked it or not. I didnt drive until I was in my late 20s and it was horrible. You need to be young and stupid (lol) and get it out of your system. Waiting until they are too old is not healthy. By then they have kids or a job and its not a great idea to still be a new driver.
    I agree. I am not sure what they are afraid of. My Dad used to leave his keys in his car and I would spend hours just moving the car back and forth down the drive way. I think I was around 12. LOL He would take me to a parking lot on a Sunday and let me tool around in his car. He taught me how to "burn rubber". I was a pretty good driver way before I turned 15 with my learners permit. When I got my learners permit, on a family vacation, he let me drive all the way to Kentucky while he snoozed in the passenger seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Major depression on the rise among everyone, new data shows
    Biggest increase in diagnoses seen in teens


    Major depression is on the rise among Americans from all age groups, but is rising fastest among teens and young adults, new health insurance data shows.

    Depression rates also vary a lot state by state, with Rhode Island having the highest rate of depression at 6.4 percent. Hawaii has the lowest rate — 2.1 percent.

    The findings cover people with commercial health insurance — Blue Cross and Blue Shield — so they’re not fully representative. But most people in the U.S. are covered by a commercial health plan.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_depressive_disorder

    Any idea why depression is on the rise?
    Interesting. I'm not sure why it is. I'd be a little wary, though, since if you're defining depression by way of diagnosis, you may simply be measuring the willingness or ability of people to seek help, resulting in such a diagnosis. If, for example, the stigma against admitting depression declines, depression diagnosis would tend to rise, even if actual depression fell as a result of treatment. That's why defining it by way of something tangible, like suicide, might give us more meaningful stats.

    Have you ever taken a look at suicide rates by state? It's really quite fascinating when you look at it from a red-state/blue-state perspective. The liberal states are generally in good shape. The lowest age-adjusted suicide rates (2012 CDC data) are in DC, NJ, NY, MA, RI, MD, IL, CT, CA, and GA....so only one conservative entry in the top ten, and that at number ten. At the other end, sixteen out of the twenty most suicide-prone states are red states.

    I see it as a sign of spiritual emptiness. In the blue states, there's a vibrant society that gives people a sense of community and a moral focus to their lives. In Red America, especially the whiter red states (WY, AK, MT, UT, ID), society is atomized, and in the absence of human connection or meaning in their lives, challenges become unbearable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
    I see it as a sign of spiritual emptiness. In the blue states, there's a vibrant society that gives people a sense of community and a moral focus to their lives. In Red America, especially the whiter red states (WY, AK, MT, UT, ID), society is atomized, and in the absence of human connection or meaning in their lives, challenges become unbearable.
    Utah society is atomized and has no sense of community? Mormons - or, at least, the LDS Church generally - are all about community and human connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Utah society is atomized and has no sense of community? Mormons - or, at least, the LDS Church generally - are all about community and human connection.
    I disagree with this as well. Small towns in the South have a great sense of community and are there for each other. I see it in Kentucky with the opioid crisis. Fosters homes are at capacity and if were not for the Churches and neighbors, children who are caught in the cross fire would not have a chance. I also think of my Dad's neighbors and Church family. If he is not spotted, they immediately check on him. If they see him out in his property working, they come over and ask him if he needs help. After my Mom passed and I left to go home, he would not have thrived if it were not for his community. On the other hand, in my community, especially with my weird schedule and the busy lives of my neighbors, I could be dead for 2 weeks before anyone noticed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    ^^This^^

    I've told both my kids, do not substitute your phone for actual personal relationships. Too many kids these days focus more on how many "likes" they get or how many followers they have, rather than try to cultivate talking to people one on one.




    So we want to blame iphones for major depression, but we can't dare suggest psychoactive drugs with side effects like "homicidal ideations" and "suicidal thoughts" have anything to do with school shootings.


    Folks you can't make this shit up.

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