Thread: Time to get your flu vaccine

Originally Posted by jackalope

Actually, no, he's not correct. The flu shot does not contain live virus, it contains killed virus, while the nasal spray contains weakend live virus. He is not correct:





Misconceptions about the flu shots

Can a flu shot give you the flu?
No, a flu shot cannot cause flu illness. The influenza viruses contained in a flu shot are inactivated (killed), which means they cannot cause infection. Flu vaccine manufacturers kill the viruses used in the vaccine during the process of making vaccine, and batches of flu vaccine are tested to make sure they are safe. In randomized, blinded studies, where some people get flu shots and others get salt-water shots, the only differences in symptoms was increased soreness in the arm and redness at the injection site among people who got the flu shot. There were no differences in terms of body aches, fever, cough, runny nose or sore throat.

CDC - Seasonal Influenza (Flu) - Q & A: Seasonal Flu Vaccine

Toays flu shots come complete with the H1N1 live virus.

From the CDC, and this is just intranasal. That BTW grows and multiplies for 21 days, making children a walking talking plague. Yummy.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis...is-flulive.pdf

Originally Posted by michaelr

Toays flu shots come complete with the H1N1 live virus.

From the CDC, and this is just intranasal. That BTW grows and multiplies for 21 days, making children a walking talking plague. Yummy.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis...is-flulive.pdf

On the bolded, no they do not. Jabs are killed virus. Nasal sprays are live, weakened viruses.

From your own link:


2. Inactivated (killed) influenza vaccine, the “flu shot,” is
given by injection with a needle. This vaccine is described
in a separate Vaccine Information Statement

Originally Posted by jackalope

On the bolded, no they do not. Jabs are killed virus. Nasal sprays are live, weakened viruses.

From your own link:


2. Inactivated (killed) influenza vaccine, the “flu shot,” is
given by injection with a needle. This vaccine is described
in a separate Vaccine Information Statement

Again todays seasonal jab contains H1N1 live virus. From the CDC...

Both live, attenuated and inactivated influenza A (H1N1) 2009 monovalent vaccine formulations will be available initially; as with seasonal influenza vaccines, neither of these vaccines will contain adjuvants. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and WHO have selected A/California/07/2009 (H1N1) for use as the strain for the vaccines currently being manufactured.

Attenuated is also live but weak. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...r58e0821a1.htm

Originally Posted by michaelr

Again todays seasonal jab contains H1N1 live virus. From the CDC...



Attenuated is also live but weak.

Once again, you're incorrect. The shot does not contain live virus, but the nasal spray does. And yes, attenuated means weakened, but live. The nasal spray contains attenuated virus, the jab contains inactivated, or killed, virus.

I don't care how you spin it.. nobody is injecting me with any of that poison.. period

Originally Posted by jackalope

Once again, you're incorrect. The shot does not contain live virus, but the nasal spray does. And yes, attenuated means weakened, but live. The nasal spray contains attenuated virus, the jab contains inactivated, or killed, virus.

Tell you what, you get your shots, and good luck. But when your about fifty and you forget your name you know that is it the heavy metals that you are injecting yourself with that is the cause. Aluminum is prevalent in ALL Alzheimers victims.

Between the shit they do with our food, the shit added to the water, and the shit they jab us with, it is sometimes a wonder we survive. That is a testament to the human body, and that is being destroyed. Adjuvants tear the immune system apart, they cause brain swelling and are also linked to autism.

Originally Posted by michaelr

Tell you what, you get your shots, and good luck. But when your about fifty and you forget your name you know that is it the heavy metals that you are injecting yourself with that is the cause. Aluminum is prevalent in ALL Alzheimers victims.

Between the shit they do with our food, the shit added to the water, and the shit they jab us with, it is sometimes a wonder we survive. That is a testament to the human body, and that is being destroyed. Adjuvants tear the immune system apart, they cause brain swelling and are also linked to autism.

I do get all my shots. I am about fifty. I remember my name just fine.

I dont begrudge anyone making there own decision, with their health care professional, but Im 52 and have never gotten a flu shot. Neither have my three children (all of whom are adults now). Ive never felt it necessary.

Quite frankly Im scared to death of the pharmaceautical industry, and rarely take anything, including over the counter pain and cold drugs.


On a side note, I had to tell my son NOT to but Lucerne (Safeway) brand mild today....even in a pinch which he did. Im deathly afraid of the hormones given to the cows. We buy local (but not raw) milk from a trusted company which does not use any hormones for their cows.

One of my biggest fears is big pharma...The products and all the new "medical issues" I see today that IVe never heard of before....and the new drugs to take care of them. Scares the living bejeebies out of me.

But these are decisions BEST left to patients and their own medical professionals. ANd patients should make always take the time to research what the doctors are prescribing.

Originally Posted by Michele

I dont begrudge anyone making there own decision, with their health care professional, but Im 52 and have never gotten a flu shot. Neither have my three children (all of whom are adults now). Ive never felt it necessary.

Quite frankly Im scared to death of the pharmaceautical industry, and rarely take anything, including over the counter pain and cold drugs.


On a side note, I had to tell my son NOT to but Lucerne (Safeway) brand mild today....even in a pinch which he did. Im deathly afraid of the hormones given to the cows. We buy local (but not raw) milk from a trusted company which does not use any hormones for their cows.

One of my biggest fears is big pharma...The products and all the new "medical issues" I see today that IVe never heard of before....and the new drugs to take care of them. Scares the living bejeebies out of me.

But these are decisions BEST left to patients and their own medical professionals. ANd patients should make always take the time to research what the doctors are prescribing.

You're of course right.

@jackalope My bad.

I should have stated I am more afraid of big pharma then I am of catching the flu....