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    Oh, I see, because it had "layers."

    (yawn)

    You do realize that Adobe released a statement saying that the layers were normal? Several problemes with the "Long form birther" crowd.

    #1 none of us ever looked at the actual BC, only a copy of a picture that was converted and scanned and then put into PDF form.

    Most birthers are too stupid to understand that, though.
    Exactly, and we are told that they took the document, scanned it and put the scanned pdf on the website.

    It's not the fact that the document HAD layers, but HOW the layers were split and the contents of the various layers. It would require actually looking at the document, if it's still on the whitehouse page.

    You are right, when OCR software is applied to a document it will create different layers, but, not to create the document that was posted. That would require human influence... And not even good. I mean, bad to the point that they should have flattened it, and at least that would have concealed what was manipulated.

    Seriously, I'm not even disputing any of the data, pretend nothing was factually changed, but the document was just modified to create the effect that it was altered, why would you put out a document that would clearly be called into question by anyone with 5 min and an Internet connection?

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    So not too long ago, Politifact hired "reader advocates". PolitiFact Hires and Fires Alan Grayson as 'Reader Advocate' for Fact-Checking Site | Sunshine State News | Florida Political News
    One was alleged wife beater Alan Grayson who is just a dishonest asshole in general. Even fellow Democrats can't stand the guy.
    Now the other was David Jolly. He flew under the radar because Grayson is such a spectacular scumbag. But that says a lot about Politifact that their idea of balance is someone as far left as Grayson and the most left wing former Republican they could find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Those were facts.
    Of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Horse crap, Corsi is so awful that he deserves his own category for political witch hunts Nazi-era-like profane smear jobs. "Where's the Birth Certificate?" was a shameful exercise in misleading, poorly framed and dishonest charges that was probably the most laughable piece of garbage ever cobbled together under a single binder. Did you forget about that or are you one of five people who actually still believes that Obama was born in Kenya?
    And Obama exploited the crap out of it, waiting several years before sharing his long form, During that year, the idea that every Republican was a birther, was the hammer.

    https://www.snopes.com/politics/obam...ertificate.asp

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/u...ype=collection

    Just as Republicans disproportionately endorsed prominent misperceptions during the Obama years (like the birther and death panel myths), Democrats are now the opposition partisans especially likely to fall victim to dubious claims about the Trump administration. But the shift in vulnerability to conspiracy theories may have deeper psychological roots. Research suggests that people embrace conspiracy beliefs as a way to cope with perceived threats to control
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    And Obama exploited the crap out of it, waiting several years before sharing his long form, During that year, the idea that every Republican was a birther, was the hammer.

    https://www.snopes.com/politics/obam...ertificate.asp

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/u...ype=collection
    Your links don't match your argument. Nice try.
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