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    Not a "favorite" per se, but I pick up a lot of news from the home page of AT&T, my ISP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    I'm going to echo Ted here. PH is my news distributor of choice... and I'm completely serious.

    I can login here and I almost immediately know that if there's a story worth talking about out there, a thread has been started here. I can also immediately identify the spin being put on the story by noting both who is talking about it and seeing what argument is being linked to with what source. Plus, we have a wide variety of political philosophies represented too. That means that if it's a story liked by the left, middle, or right... it'll be posted here by someone. From there I can head out on my own to either see what's making headlines that day or to follow up and pursue a topic posted here that interests me. PH isn't the only place I go to for political news... it's just my gateway drug.
    I agree that PH is a great place to find out "What's the Buzz, Tell me what's a happening!" but it's not the place to find out what's true. You can read hundreds of posts here and not find journalistic, sound sources. But watch Washington Journal for a week (Cspan) and you get consistently solid sources for all arguments and well prepared guests. It's a question of who does the sorting. WJ includes the usual partisan blather, but never from the host, who sorts and quotes the news.

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    news.google.com

    It immediately gives you all the top stories and a half dozen news articles on each. You can then select a source that you know leans right and see what they say about it and then one that leans left and see what they have to say about it before drawing your own conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    I agree that PH is a great place to find out "What's the Buzz, Tell me what's a happening!" but it's not the place to find out what's true. You can read hundreds of posts here and not find journalistic, sound sources. But watch Washington Journal for a week (Cspan) and you get consistently solid sources for all arguments and well prepared guests. It's a question of who does the sorting. WJ includes the usual partisan blather, but never from the host, who sorts and quotes the news.
    Aren't they solely political and whats happening in DC? I read about a bear attack the other day in Colorado, what did CSPAN have to say about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    news.google.com

    It immediately gives you all the top stories and a half dozen news articles on each. You can then select a source that you know leans right and see what they say about it and then one that leans left and see what they have to say about it before drawing your own conclusion.

    I used to go to google news, but they just radically changed. Lots of white space. They used to have a top-10-things-in-the-news on the left, with line after line of news stories in the main section. About 10 stories per category. Good place to take in a lot of information with one glance.

    Now the highlight area on the left is gone and there's so much white space you have to scroll and scroll to get to the stories. No more "take in a lot at once glance". And when I scroll ... and scroll and scroll ... the remaining content is so sparse that it doesn't seem worth the extra effort.

    Maybe I'll get used to it and start to like the new format, but right now, it is not for me. That's why I'm looking for new sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    I used to go to google news, but they just radically changed. Lots of white space. They used to have a top-10-things-in-the-news on the left, with line after line of news stories in the main section. About 10 stories per category. Good place to take in a lot of information with one glance.

    Now the highlight area on the left is gone and there's so much white space you have to scroll and scroll to get to the stories. No more "take in a lot at once glance". And when I scroll ... and scroll and scroll ... the remaining content is so sparse that it doesn't seem worth the extra effort.

    Maybe I'll get used to it and start to like the new format, but right now, it is not for me. That's why I'm looking for new sites.
    Have you tried "signing in" and customizing your preferences......??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    news.google.com

    It immediately gives you all the top stories and a half dozen news articles on each. You can then select a source that you know leans right and see what they say about it and then one that leans left and see what they have to say about it before drawing your own conclusion.
    Google News is a very good news aggregator. I check out the headlines on MSN first thing as I'm trying to wake up and not quite able to comprehend any full articles. It just gives me an idea of what the latest buzz is. Then I go to Google News and find some excellent analysis articles at places like The Atlantic and The New Yorker. I have been a huge fan of Kevin Drum's since the early aughts when he had his own blog. Now he writes a blog for Mother Jones. I've also been a regular reader of the brilliant Heather Digby Parton for the same amount of time. She still has her own blog but also writes for Salon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Have you tried "signing in" and customizing your preferences......??

    I am signed in. I haven't tried to customize anything. I just look at the now-contentless left of the page, the sparse main page and this announcement on the right of the page:

    "Google News has a new look
    We've made it easier to get your news with more context, more insights, and more control."


    ... and get kind of pissed off, because they have made it harder, and it LOOKS like less content. And I don't give a crap about their "insights". I wanted the easily accessible, numerous, wide-ranging headlines they used to have without making you go hunting for them.

    ... maybe when I'm done being pissed off I'll look at them again and see if I can find said controllers.


    I don't like my news to lie to me. Whether it's the networks or the aggregators.
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    So, now I see that if I scroll down a little, on the right Google has more or less the same buzzword section that they used to have prominently on the left.

    It messes with my head to have to reindex everything. I suppose it's good for warding off Alzheimer's ... having to relearn something and having to figure out again how to get information which used to be more readily accessible.

    And if anyone can defend the changes and explain how they really are an improvement, I'd appreciate it .

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