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    Bad debaters

    Why are there such bad Debaters on the site? They always lack context, perspective, and relativity. Everything is not about facts, but what your conclusion is of those facts.

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    Liberals generally don't debate.

    There are a few here but most just like to do their little one word responses or make personal troll posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Sands View Post
    Why are there such bad Debaters on the site? They always lack context, perspective, and relativity. Everything is not about facts, but what your conclusion is of those facts.

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    Wait, stating something not true without any logic or reasoning, deflecting , and repeating over and over is not good debate?

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    Unfortunately, the definition of "debate" is quite subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    Unfortunately, the definition of "debate" is quite subjective.
    The poster is talking about unsubstantiated "facts" like Hillary took money from the KKK (lie), liberalism is a mental disorder (parrot like canned response).

    How about this, Obama gave Iran nukes, (another fantasy, good with tissues and a centerfold, but not much use here).

    Now, there are some good debates, but for the most part, you have to weed thru the flotsam and jetsam to get to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Sands View Post
    Why are there such bad Debaters on the site? They always lack context, perspective, and relativity. Everything is not about facts, but what your conclusion is of those facts.

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    The debates used to be better, when the information flow was more limited, like in the early 2000's; people were forced to use unimpeachable sources for their "facts", now you have these political blogs and oil can sites that will publish any kind of jabberwocky and people take to it, like pablum to babes.

    You can't have a debate when the foundation of the opinion is rooted in lies and falsehoods, at that point, you are just arguing with a screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Sands View Post
    Why are there such bad Debaters on the site? They always lack context, perspective, and relativity. Everything is not about facts, but what your conclusion is of those facts.

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    Bumper sticker sized thoughts hardly convey any deep ideas or novel perspectives, and are very unpersuasive as a result, but they are convenient for people who don't know why they believe what they believe, which describes most liberals.
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    You can't have a debate without a common goal.

    If two people want to find gold they can debate where the best place to look is. They both want the gold.

    If two people want to find the truth about God they can debate Odin vs Shiva. But they both want to know God.

    If one person wants to set good public policy and one person wants to get their cousin elected so he can rezone some family property for development , there is nothing they can debate.

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    OP is ironic.



    ... and why is the thread in the Journalism subforum?
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