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    Bad news writing

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebri...cid=spartanntp

    I hate when I see so called news where they paraphrase and cherry pick something then put quotes around it as if it were what was said.

    This is not about Masterson and his rape allegation, but the bad reporting around it. How the hell did our journalists get this way? Its some combination of illiterate, lazy, and dishonest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
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    I hate when I see so called news where they paraphrase and cherry pick something then put quotes around it as if it were what was said.

    This is not about Masterson and his rape allegation, but the bad reporting around it. How the hell did our journalists get this way? Its some combination of illiterate, lazy, and dishonest.

    Am guessing that the 24/7 news-cycle along with getting a paycheck are part of the formula. Sensationalism sells.
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    My favorite is posing things as questions "terrorist fist jab?" or prefacing unfounded accusations with "people are saying..."
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    Here is another one. Project Veritas, O'Keef's fake sting operations center seems to be behind at least one of the allegations against Moore, which The Post responded:

    "We always honor 'off-the-record' agreements when they're entered into in good faith," said Martin Baron, The Post's executive editor. "But this so-called off-the-record conversation was the essence of a scheme to deceive and embarrass us. The intent by Project Veritas clearly was to publicize the conversation if we fell for the trap. Because of our customary journalistic rigor, we weren't fooled, and we can't honor an 'off-the-record' agreement that was solicited in maliciously bad faith."

    Without getting into whether Moore is innocent or guilty, this is a prime example for me, on why we need some sort of regulatory body on this... It's in the public interest to not be deliberately misinformed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    Here is another one. Project Veritas, O'Keef's fake sting operations center seems to be behind at least one of the allegations against Moore, which The Post responded:

    "We always honor 'off-the-record' agreements when they're entered into in good faith," said Martin Baron, The Post's executive editor. "But this so-called off-the-record conversation was the essence of a scheme to deceive and embarrass us. The intent by Project Veritas clearly was to publicize the conversation if we fell for the trap. Because of our customary journalistic rigor, we weren't fooled, and we can't honor an 'off-the-record' agreement that was solicited in maliciously bad faith."

    Without getting into whether Moore is innocent or guilty, this is a prime example for me, on why we need some sort of regulatory body on this... It's in the public interest to not be deliberately misinformed.
    Ouch!! Seriously Busted!!

    Interesting article. And kudos to the WaPo reporters for fact checking.
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    One more:
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    About a month before Trump announced his candidacy for president, his charity, the Trump Foundation, gave $10,000 to Project Veritas.

    The March 2015 donation likely helped fund filmmaker and conservative activist James O'Keefe in creating a video claiming to show Hillary Clinton supporters were paid $1,500 to cause violence during Trump's rallies, which were often interrupted by protestors and fights. The video was released in October 2016.

    Trump mentioned the videos and its claims while debating Clinton, but never mentioned that he donated to the organization that made them. "They hired people. They paid them $1,500, and they're on tape saying be violent, cause fights, do bad things," Trump said, citing the video by O'Keefe.
    How do we know what to believe? It's not like we have unlimited time and resources to vet everything personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
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    How do we know what to believe? It's not like we have unlimited time and resources to vet everything personally.
    False allegations are far more damaging to victims than people realize. I understand that authorities are hesitant to press charges on those proven to have done this for fear it will discourage real victims from coming forward, but I think he public in general should be aware of the fact it sometimes happens, and in the case of Moore, with the stakes so high, it's more likely than in a lower profile circumstance.

    Just because some women may do this for whatever reason, it shouldn't discount accusations that are credible. The fact WaPo caught this woman and exposed her shows not only are they fact checking, but they understood that this was likely to happen and to be meticulous about details. I think they were expecting it, rather than just having happened to stumble upon it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
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    I hate when I see so called news where they paraphrase and cherry pick something then put quotes around it as if it were what was said.

    This is not about Masterson and his rape allegation, but the bad reporting around it. How the hell did our journalists get this way? Its some combination of illiterate, lazy, and dishonest.
    I had no idea who Danny Masterson was, and I didn't learn anything from the link that you provided. Is this the story to which you are referring? If so, what is it about this story that you consider inaccurate?

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