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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. czernobog,

    Yes, how dare they release the actual facts of the event.

    I mean, the report should have read:

    A teen was arrest in the deaths of people, who may or may not be his relatives in an unnamed town in a state which may or may not be on the east coast of a country which may or may not be in the western hemisphere, according to someone who may or may not be an official near where the incident took place. Or not.
    So, the report couldn't have noted that the teen shot, and killed his father, sister, and family friend without printing the names of the victims? REALLY????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    So, the report couldn't have noted that the teen shot, and killed his father, sister, and family friend without printing the names of the victims? REALLY????
    Mr. Czernobog,

    Yeah imagine that for printing the news. Damn press always trying to get things correct in print.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Who gives a rip whether this young killer remains anonymous or not? The story was accurately reported: The police didn't release his name.
    Again, missing the point. If the reporters didn't want to keep his name anonymous, fine. But why pretend they were going to do so, and then make it clear that they wanted everyone to know exactly who he was? That doesn't strike you as being just a bit dishonest journalism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Czernobog,

    Yeah imagine that for printing the news. Damn press always trying to get things correct in print.
    Then just print. The, Kid's. Fucking. Name!!!!! Don't pretend you are trying to protect his identity, when you clearly are not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Exactly.

    This issue isn't about whether it's right or wrong to name the minor.

    It's about "don't act like it's wrong and then do everything in your power to help people find out the name of the minor anyway."

    If they believe it's wrong, then they're in the wrong because they practically named him.

    If they don't believe it's wrong, then they shouldn't be trying to get credit for respecting that rule.
    Thank you. I'm glad someone gets it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Then just print. The, Kid's. Fucking. Name!!!!! Don't pretend you are trying to protect his identity, when you clearly are not!
    Mr. Czernobog,

    Correction. Case law has set the precedent that it holds the press organization libel if they publish a minor's name.
    Last edited by Kallie Knoetze; 2nd January 2018 at 10:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Bullshit. It is common practice to release the names of crime victims in news reports. If this young man wanted to remain anonymous, then he should have sought victims to whom wasn't related.
    Not when it will expose a person who is being protected, it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Czernobog,

    It's illegal to print a minor suspect's name in most jurisdictions.
    It's illegal to print a minor suspect's name? Or it's illegal to reveal a minor suspect's name? Because the article clearly did the latter by making a simple internet search imminently available, with all of the information they provided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Then just print. The, Kid's. Fucking. Name!!!!! Don't pretend you are trying to protect his identity, when you clearly are not!
    Doing that would be a violation of their own journalistic policy. I don't see, in the linked article, where anyone is pretending to protect anyone's identity. The public statement made by the police had already revealed not only the names of the victims, but that the minor in question has been apprehended and is a suspect in their killing.

    It may seem ironic to avoid printing his name in a case like this, but he is a minor, and it is standard policy. I don't see why I should be outraged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Doing that would be a violation of their own journalistic policy. I don't see, in the linked article, where anyone is pretending to protect anyone's identity. The public statement made by the police had already revealed not only the names of the victims, but that the minor in question has been apprehended and is a suspect in their killing.

    It may seem ironic to avoid printing his name in a case like this, but he is a minor, and it is standard policy. I don't see why I should be outraged.
    To prove the point, the shooter's name is Scott Kologi. I learned this in three minutes just cross-referencing the names of the father, and the brother. So, tell me, just how protected was the shooter's identity?

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