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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    It's not just Democrats. MOST people realize it will hurt them.



    https://www.theatlantic.com/business...x-bill/547322/
    Seems like I heard there is a $10K cap on tax write off. If a person can afford a home with that high of taxes they can afford. To pay more in federal taxes. This bill is clearly aimed at making rich people paying more taxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I know I'm not wrong when I say 2 + 2 = 4. I know I'm not wrong when I say the speed of light is 186,000 feet per second. I know I'm not wrong when I say the earth revolves around the sun. That's what is meant by objective reality. You want to insist that EVERYTHING is subjective and it simply isn't true.
    No... You are taking subjective stances and declaring them objective reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    No... You are taking subjective stances and declaring them objective reality.
    Name something I insist is true that isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Name something I insist is true that isn't.
    Not the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Not the point.
    It is objective truth that the Russians planted and continue to plant fake news in social media. During the 2016 campaign they planted fake news designed to make Hillary look bad in order to help Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    It is objective truth that the Russians planted and continue to plant fake news in social media. During the 2016 campaign they planted fake news designed to make Hillary look bad in order to help Trump.
    You're getting further from the point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Good article and I agree with a lot of what it says.

    In addition to the messaging and generational arguments presented here, there's also an ideological shift going on. There are more and more people who describe themselves as fiscally conservative but socially liberal. When it comes time to evaluate candidates, they look at a Democrat who may appeal to their social concerns but who goes against many things they believe about government spending or entitlements. They can also look at a Republican candidate and have their fiscal concerns validated while reacting everywhere from simple disagreement to outright repulsion to that same candidate's social positions.

    The end result is an unpredictable and very unmotivated voter.
    I do think thats going to be a particular issue with the GOP in the future. We now have more right wing politicians in DC while in New England 4 out of the 6 states have GOP governors that are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Enough so that democrats tend to vote for them as well. That works very well regionally, but I dont know how that flies nationally. The Boston Globe did a piece about Gov Charlie Baker and how they think he will be the one to rescue the GOP in the future and bring it back to where it used to be. Living here I can actually see that. But nationally? I just dont know. It will depend on how motivated the voters are to return to normal or whether they somehow will be bored with it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    You're getting further from the point...
    How so. What I stated is objective truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    What is fiscally conservative about a modern day Republican?
    Maybe not in DC but locally they exist. Its why most of the top 10 popular governors are republicans in blue/purple states. You can also see the least popular governors are all republicans but not fiscally conservative ones.

    https://morningconsult.com/governor-...ngs-july-2017/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    How so. What I stated is objective truth.
    When the discussion is about determining fiction from reality, yes, stating a fact is missing the point.

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