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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Obama ran on being fiscally conservative in 2008. He promised to pay for every penny of the programs he proposed. He promised to go through the federal budget line by line and get rid of programs.
    This response is a distraction. My question has nothing to do with Obama.

    For someone who portrays himself as a squeaky-clean and honest dealer, you've become more and more unhinged with an empty nastiness that we usually see only in our more unhinged posters. I told you months ago that you'd need to embarrass yourself in order to maintain your defense of Trump for long and that you needed to know where your own personal ethical line was or you would eventually find yourself on the wrong side of it. Your contributions to this thread only prove my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    As much as they annoy us though, it is important to maintain some empathy.

    When the indictments start raining down, they will be losing many of the people they look up to. We need to help them to accept these things because some are still fragile that they didn't get Clinton. Some might very well lose their minds and lash out.

    They are not the enemy in spite of it all.


    When the indictments come the Country will split up and yes .... they are and they will be the enemy.

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    Journalism is not all that complicated. Following its ethics is difficult to harmonize with news as a business and there's the rub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Journalism is not all that complicated.
    Typed like someone who's never done it but who read a book about it once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    This response is a distraction. My question has nothing to do with Obama.

    For someone who portrays himself as a squeaky-clean and honest dealer, you've become more and more unhinged with an empty nastiness that we usually see only in our more unhinged posters. I told you months ago that you'd need to embarrass yourself in order to maintain your defense of Trump for long and that you needed to know where your own personal ethical line was or you would eventually find yourself on the wrong side of it. Your contributions to this thread only prove my point.
    I portray myself as an entertainer and provocateur and I always have. But I like to go against the grain, so while the world is into fake news, I am compelled to push journalism.

    I think you suffer under the delusion that I care about group opinions as to Trump. I did not vote for him, but the people elected him and that makes him someone who should be defended against sedition. So I defend. (against the grain, get it?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Typed like someone who's never done it but who read a book about it once.
    Our ethics paid for in part by our taxes. And the most consistent source for real news. Read it.

    NPR Ethics Handbook | How to apply our standards to our journalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    I portray myself as an entertainer and provocateur and I always have.
    No you don't. What a complete prevarication!
    But I like to go against the grain, so while the world is into fake news, I am compelled to push journalism.

    I think you suffer under the delusion that I care about group opinions as to Trump. I did not vote for him, but the people elected him and that makes him someone who should be defended against sedition. So I defend. (against the grain, get it?)
    I'm not deluded. I don't care if you voted for him or not. You still defend him. Attacking a bad president isn't sedition. It's politics. When you think other people's politics is sedition, you've moved to a position that is essentially undemocratic and leads to despotism. Soon you'll want to arrest congressmen for not applauding the president at the SOTU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Our ethics paid for in part by our taxes. And the most consistent source for real news. Read it.

    NPR Ethics Handbook | How to apply our standards to our journalism.
    I've already exposed you as a hypocrite with regard to this argument, which you hope to provide in shorthand here. You don't believe in any of it when it doesn't benefit your politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    This is an interesting article about a couple of studies that show that most people do know the difference between real and fake news. For example, most people oppose the Republican tax bill because they know it favors the rich and hurts everyone else. Or, most people oppose the repeal of Obamacare because they know it's better than what we had before and certainly better than anything the Republicans have offered. Anyway, it's very interesting.





    https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c...t-the-solution

    So how in the hell have we ended up with Trump as president and a majority Republican Congress? Gerrymandering is one reason. But that doesn't explain it all. Maybe because Democrats do suck in some important ways. An important way is that they're terrible at messaging.



    Or maybe he won because you put up a shitty candidate who insulted a huge part of her base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    When the indictments come the Country will split up and yes .... they are and they will be the enemy.
    If that is the case; need to become a red pill Distribution Center. Keep the enemies numbers as small as possible for when it counts.

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