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    Soros's just said Facebook and Google were a menace. I guess we agree with a billionaire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    And the FCC provided protections against these intrusions in 2016: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.865ce0a7bcfa

    Then in 2017 Republicans prevented those protections from going into effect: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.7e0c4e24340b
    You have been so thoroughly misinformed... you are referring to net neutrality in the same way that the patriot act was patriotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    You have been so thoroughly misinformed... you are referring to net neutrality in the same way that the patriot act was patriotic.
    This has nothing to do with net neutrality. Perhaps you are misinformed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    This has nothing to do with net neutrality. Perhaps you are misinformed.
    I'm sorry, but you guys REALLY need to start distinguishing between the sales pitch and the product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    I'm sorry, but you guys REALLY need to start distinguishing between the sales pitch and the product.
    Net neutrality and net privacy are different issues. I'm sorry if you don't recognize that. Apples and oranges...really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Many are deleting Facebook APPS. Is this the beginning of the end of a Media Source?

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...MyMjEzMzA2MgS2
    It could be based on many things. facebook like so many other novelties, has run its "novelty" course and has become repetitive and boring, among other things. People may have recognized in this politically divided and charged world, how it has divided their friends and families and has bared more than people ever knew about one another, to one another, as well as to the entire world. They may have realized how the internet is not just a precious tool and source of endless information, but that some of that information is disinformation and intended to deceive them and some of their information is being used against them and their privacy. There are many other reasons to contemplate privacy and the whole use of the internet, not just facebook.

    I also wonder how people place so much blame on facebook, when facebook is pretty much a communications platform and experiment and just one more evolution into how to make money from the internet. Bitcoin is the latest and greatest attention grabber and money maker....and breaker....... facebook can be used in many many ways and no one is forced to believe anything that comes across it, into their view.....Just like no one is forced to believe anything they read or view in any media form, be it coming from what flatters Trump, what does not flatter him, "fake" news or Trump Tweets....the latter perhaps being more fake on average than anything he calls fake.

    I'm all for us taking on dual responsibility and accountability. Facebook is a grand experiment. Obviously it has to support itself and it's value is based on a massive audience reaching capacity......which anyone, including or not, facebook, can utilize for perfectly honest and good reasons or for deceptive and underhanded reasons. If facebook has 300,000,000 users and if each of those users purchases just one item that could be tracked to their seeing it on facebook, and that purchase translates into only $1 of revenue per person to facebook, that's $300 million in revenue. Obviously, a good money maker and better avenue for advertisers to reach an incredibly massive audience, in one location, because until recently or now, most people never thought of or viewed facebook as having a political bias.....Again, it is just a platform and news feeds are based on input from each facebook page owner. If you use facebook and often look at or click links that take you in directions that "look" liberal OR "conservative", your news feed will feed you news that trends towards what your surfacing says, are your interests. Does that mean facebook is biased or that its logarithms are merely taking your own information and feeding your own interests back to you, in the form of numerous options, based on how you have shaped your own character on their servers?

    While there may be some concerns, as there always are with just about anyone, any company, to me it seems a stretch for blame facebook for some of the things some people (even ex-employees) are trying to blame it for, especially considering its interactive, interconnected, not unidirectional, format and function. I'm not saying you are blaming facebook, but some are. I just think facebook's novelty attraction has worn off as it does for many things, but people I think are also realizing any threats that not only facebook (not caused by facebook, but as a result of interactions on it), but the whole internet could be, to their privacy and to their financial security, as well as their mental well being, when they begin to compare their lives to the lives of others.....either to intentionally or unintentionally brag about their own lives and activities or to compare their own boring lives to the lives of others, causing them to be depressed.....Then there are those who use facebook to deceive, data mine information by asking questions about things that people might use as security questions for their on-line banking......anything that identity thieves might want or could use to rob someone......

    The deeper question I think might be, is it just facebook or are people seeing how being connected electronically might be in some ways, similar to inviting a Trojan horse, into their homes in the form of desktops, laptops, smart phones and other devices that are gathering so much information on them, they become "servers" that know more about us, than we know about ourselves. Fine, as long as it is only locked in a machine and no one, but us and anyone we give permission to, sees it. But in some cases, it is perfectly legal to sell and buy information, those who gather it, have compiled, so that information is not kept private and that's only the legal side of the issue, not taking into account those that will hack and steal information they then, put to use in ways that hurt us.

    Humans live in a world of constant experimenting with new technologies and sometimes their pitfalls are recognized immediately, sometimes it takes many years, even decades before that miracle machine or cure, is found to be killing or hurting more people than it helps. When technology evolves and comes at us so quickly, the pitfalls may never be known before we move on to something new and our use of the older technology might make us even more vulnerable, via the newer technology. It's not only technological changes, but changes in social behavior and how to keep up with or handle rapidly changing technology.....It's in someways like an arms race. New technology comes out and there is a window of time before someone finds a way to use the same technology against people or finds a way to surpass the technology that protects people from people who want to do them harm.....

    It's an interesting world we're headed into. Faster ways to spread information, but also disinformation. Faster ways to do things like banking and buying, but faster ways for someone to steal from us........

    I am always reminded of Laurel and Hardy in contemplating some things like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Net neutrality and net privacy are different issues. I'm sorry if you don't recognize that. Apples and oranges...really.
    I'm not sure some foreign shills have full grasp of the English language and the people and concepts they may be paid to shill for. The script they follow seems to be simple enough. Ignore facts and figures and keep tossing out stuff that does not make sense, as a distraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    No, I went off Facebook long ago. I mean Facetime... We text, phone and visit. May be fine if you are far away. I have it on this IPad. Seldom use.
    I rarely Facetime but the few times I did I was grateful the tech was around.

    I was able to see and 'communicate' with my dad on the East Coast last summer before he died. I don't think he really understood the concept because he kept trying to take the Ipad away from my sister. He passed 2 days before I was able to get to him.

    The summer of 2016 when I was on the East Coast and hospitalized for six weeks I Facetimed with my children. I missed them fiercely.
    It helped them understand what I was going through and they could see my surroundings.


    Another time I went fishing with someone! It was fun and silly but the fish weren't biting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One View Post
    It would be funny if all smartphones suddenly stopped working. A whole generation would be completely lost.
    And the withdrawals would be horrible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambler View Post
    What's facebook?

    If it goes away, what will replace it?
    From personal observation I see Facebook being used by the 40+ population.

    My children have Facebook but they rarely use it. They use Pinterest, Instagram, Snapchat and probably a few more I can't recall at the moment.

    I used to use Facebook for research and as a marketing tool.

    I haven't logged into Facebook since October. My family and friends know how to get in touch with me.

    I'm seriously considering deleting my account.

    Facebook doesn't serve much of a purpose for me anymore.

    I was elated when I figured out how to delete that darn Farmville!

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