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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Or...the publicity inspired copycats.

    Is "innocent until proven guilty" an affront to your sense of justice?
    Ah..there it is blaming the victims. Yes I have heard the term innocent until proven guilty he but I also expressed my opinion about OJ Simpson . Of course that's all these women wanted was publicity. Nothing is as great as being a woman who's pussy was grabbed really great feeling. And then we wonder why women don't report sexual abuse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Some people will do ANYTHING for fame.
    That is your viewpoint. But Donald Trump is the one who says fame lets him grab. pussies.these 50 women really wanted that even when they didn't report the incident publicly but told others to keep it secret. And again we wonder why women don't record sexual assault. Sometimes women are our own worst enemies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    The other thing that gives me pause is, Cosby's behavior after the accusations started is the exact same if he is guilty than it would be if he is innocent.

    The "liberals" calling for his head hated that he was an iconic black conservative. They had a powerful motive to jump to conclusions.

    I am unsure this case should even proceed. "Beyond a reasonable doubt"?

    This is like asking The Magic 8 ball. IMO, we will never know what happened. And that should mean Cosby was dismissed at the preliminary hearing.
    Of course it was a conspiracy. These 50 women all are. racists and liberals. I believe The women. Even if half of them are lying 25 is a big enough number. I believe the women because I know too many women including myself who have had similar experiences and did not say a word. When one woman has the courage to speak out it encourages others. Women will talk about rape now but years ago it was a deep dirty secret.
    Ps Cosby is a Democrat and supported Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I'm still on the fence. Not 100% convinced he is guilty.
    From every excuse that you have made for him it sounds like you are 100% convinced he is not guilty. It isn't enough for you that he admits that he grabs women against their will but when the women come out and talk about it you don't believe them and make them the victimizers instead of the victims
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Yes all these women describing the same MO, Are part of a conspiracy. ...or just a coincidence the exact thing happened to all of them
    McMartin Day Care case:

    48 children lied about satanic abuse in the 1980's, sending 11 adults to prison for a decade, after which calmer, more objective inquiry found nothing ever happened.

    One hysterical social worker and one ambitious DA ruined 100's of lives, for nothing.

    All the time the cases were in progrss, people asked how could any of this be true and not one shred of physical evidence ever found?

    The reply was, only a satan-worshipping, child hater would question whether the kids were lying. So the community slowly learned to keep quiet.

    No one should go to prison if the evidence against them is not beyond a reasonable doubt.
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    Bill Cosby is facing 10 years. He actually has three counts and each could carry ten years but it is very rare to "stack" sentences in Pennsylvania. Generally the sentences run concurrent rather than consecutive. The crime he is charged with is aggravated indecent assault, not rape. Big difference in Pennsylvania. Rape is a Class A felony that carries 20 years with a minimum of 5 to serve. A Class B felony, which is what Cosby is charged with carries 10 years maximum with 2 years to serve.

    Cosby actually had 58 accusers but the statue of limitations, a law designed to protect lawbreakers from prosecution if they can run out a clock, has saved his ass. Thus far, Cosby has prevailed in the civil litigation brought against him. He still has a dozen lawsuits against him but they are not for rape. They are for defamation of character for calling the women liars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Bill Cosby is facing 10 years. He actually has three counts and each could carry ten years but it is very rare to "stack" sentences in Pennsylvania. Generally the sentences run concurrent rather than consecutive. The crime he is charged with is aggravated indecent assault, not rape. Big difference in Pennsylvania. Rape is a Class A felony that carries 20 years with a minimum of 5 to serve. A Class B felony, which is what Cosby is charged with carries 10 years maximum with 2 years to serve.

    Cosby actually had 58 accusers but the statue of limitations, a law designed to protect lawbreakers from prosecution if they can run out a clock, has saved his ass. Thus far, Cosby has prevailed in the civil litigation brought against him. He still has a dozen lawsuits against him but they are not for rape. They are for defamation of character for calling the women liars.
    So what?

    The judge excluded all but 1 woman and the complaining witness because there is no basis for concluding that evidence -- the other 56 witnesses-- were reliable enough that it would be fair to allow the jury to hear them.

    56, out of 58, found to be unreliable.

    That is not an indicia the other two are truthful people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    So what?

    The judge excluded all but 1 woman and the complaining witnesses because there is no basis for concluding that evidence -- the other 56 witnesses-- were not reliable enough that it would be fair to allow the jury to hear them.

    56, out of 58, found to be unreliable.

    That is not an indicia the other two are truthful people.
    Just bringing forth some facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Just bringing forth some facts.
    It's a very disturbing case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    That is your viewpoint. But Donald Trump is the one who says fame lets him grab. pussies.these 50 women really wanted that even when they didn't report the incident publicly but told others to keep it secret. And again we wonder why women don't record sexual assault. Sometimes women are our own worst enemies
    So, you have no concern about women who make false accusations?
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