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    People pose as cancer patients, online. Even "die" and come back, catfishing as their own mourners. I have come across 3 different people doing this since I first went online, in the 1990's. And I am not especially alert to the details of other peoples' claimed real lives, as you know.

    This "catfishing" phenomenon does not alter how we treat real cancer patients IRL. It could not.

    The emotional vampires, online or IRL, that you describe are a virulent nuisance. But their existence cannot shape our response to the actual sufferers of extreme depression that leads to actual, lethal suicide.

    This is a mental illness and can (almost always) be treated. Allowing sadists to derail that person's chances of recovery is akin to con artists, luring people away from Western medicine to try Laitrile (apircot pit extract) for enormous prices, and killing them by depriving them of the only life-saving care they could have chosen.

    Except the Laitrile com artists did it for the money. As do the worst of the "Christian" televangelists.

    People like the woman in this case did it for their AMUSEMENT. She treated that young man like a bug under glass, to be burned to death just to relieve her boredom. She is terrifying to me.

    you are mixing up to many things here. Online... and real life. This case is real life. Try and keep your issues straight.

    interesting things are comping out about the teen. It would appear she was on anti depressants that suppress emotion and empathy.

    so again... you have suicide boy looking for attention saying over and over he wants to commit suicide. And someone with a mental illness herself on drugs with no holds... telling him go on... do it.

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    How does that make children safer? Do you think we can legally, practically force everyone to stay off the internet until they are 18 years old?

    Because I don't. I don't even think children would be safer, if somehow we did prevent them from going online until they are 18.
    who is responsible for a minor? The parents are. Its their job to monitor what their children are up to.

    You seem to want to legally practically force responsibility on everyone else.... why not the parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    you are mixing up to many things here. Online... and real life. This case is real life. Try and keep your issues straight.

    interesting things are comping out about the teen. It would appear she was on anti depressants that suppress emotion and empathy.

    so again... you have suicide boy looking for attention saying over and over he wants to commit suicide. And someone with a mental illness herself on drugs with no holds... telling him go on... do it.
    She was in a doctor's care, yes. But I think she has a serious personality defect -- narcissism. Not an actual mental illness. No anti-depressant "suppresses empathy". She certainly had enough insight to know, surviving a boyfriend's suicide would raise her appeal to others she wanted to impress.

    She hunted this young man online, and whispered him to death using her cell phone, a type of online. This was a case of using the internet to cause terrible harm IRL.

    Mentally ill people turn to the internet for advice, information and support, just as physically ill people do. There are some really heartbreaking YouTube videos made by children to explain why they suicided, uploaded just before they died.

    MOST that I am aware of name extreme bullying or extortion as the reason they are taking their own lives.

    Watch "Stalking Amanda Todd: The Man in the Shadows", if you can. Free on YouTube, very short.

    Your jaw will drop at the extraordinary, imaginative sadism of one man who extorted hundreds of children around the world into making child porn for him.

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    i suggest you look up lack of empathy as a side effect of anti depressant drugs. Depression.... is a mental illness.

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    Anti-depressant drugs do not cause Asberger's syndrome.

    She can read social cues just fine. The trouble is, like any other psychopath, she used that knowledge to manipulate others because their misery amused her.

    She's a Ted Bundy wannabe, using a remote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Anti-depressant drugs do not cause Asberger's syndrome.

    She can read social cues just fine. The trouble is, like any other psychopath, she used that knowledge to manipulate others because their misery amused her.

    She's a Ted Bundy wannabe, using a remote.
    who the hell said anything about asberger's syndrome?

    again.... google is your friend. Look up anti depressants and lack of empathy.


    here is the problem.... you are about this. I dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    who the hell said anything about asberger's syndrome?

    again.... google is your friend. Look up anti depressants and lack of empathy.


    here is the problem.... you are about this. I dont.
    I am "about this"?

    Look, plenty of people much more passionate than I am about protecting vulnerable people online, and much smarter than me, have been laboring for YEARS trying to write criminal laws that we can use on people like this woman, without running afoul of the 1st amendment.

    Nobody's succeeded yet, as far as I know.

    Your "do nothing" POV might be the only choice going, in the U.S.

    But if so, God help us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I am "about this"?

    Look, plenty of people much more passionate than I am, and much smarter, have been laboring for years trying to write criminal laws that we can use on people like this woman, and not run afoul of the 1st amendment.

    Nobody's succeeded yet, as far as I know.
    as i said... i dont care. In my opinion its not murder. I am also of the opinion if people want to keep children save... then its on the parents to do that, not passing every nanny snowflake law to make you feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    as i said... i dont care. In my opinion its not murder. I am also of the opinion if people want to keep children save... then its on the parents to do that, not passing every nanny snowflake law to make you feel better.
    You and your silly posturing. Once you have labeled an injury "snowflakey", you appear stop thinking.

    Completely.

    It's not a great habit, madam.

    You cannot use 19th century analysis on 21st century problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    You and your silly posturing. Once you have labeled an injury "snowflakey", you appear stop thinking.

    Completely.

    It's not a great habit, madam.

    You cannot use 19th century analysis on 21st century problems.
    i never had to think about this one. From the start i have said... its not murder. The boy wanted to commit suicide... now hes dont it. End of story. I am very sure the motivation behind all of this.. is suicide boys parents. They can live with them selves if their son was murdered... not so much if he committed suicide. The guilt would kill them. With the idea of murder.. they can transfer blame and be angry.

    you are the one bringing up wanting new laws protecting everyone from everything and not putting responsibility on parents for their children.... sorry, that is snowflakery. You will live.

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