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Thread: The Right to Carry Your Deceased

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
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    The folks at the church decided it was too dangerous to have us carry the casket into the church for the service.

    They used a trolley to carry it out of the church to the front steps.

    Then, reluctantly, with repeated warnings to relieve us if we needed it, they let us carry it down the steps and one hundred+ yards to my father's burial site.

    To a man, every one of the bearers found the experience exhilarating and deeply meaningful.

    Today, I wonder how long it will be before we will have to sign releases before we can carry our own dead?
    My condolences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I am confused. How is this a legal problem?

    If you want a particular church to hold a funeral service for your loved one, don"t you expect to do things their way?
    Cultural expectations shaped by a society that needs tort reform makes for a people who are excessively sheepish about risk.

    All the bearers were asked before the service if we wanted to carry and all agreed to carry. We were told we would carry into the church at the start of service and to the grave site afterwards.

    When we arrived to the church for the service, the casket had already been placed in the church and after the service the trolley was used to take the casket down the aisle to the church steps.

    The church has every right to mitigate its risks. But it chose to decide for us. Again, it has that right.

    But its choice to do so is shaped by the society and the legal system.

    I started the thread because I think this is only going to get worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Cultural expectations shaped by a society that needs tort reform makes for a people who are excessively sheepish about risk.

    All the bearers were asked before the service if we wanted to carry and all agreed to carry. We were told we would carry into the church at the start of service and to the grave site afterwards.

    When we arrived to the church for the service, the casket had already been placed in the church and after the service the trolley was used to take the casket down the aisle to the church steps.

    The church has every right to mitigate its risks. But it chose to decide for us. Again, it has that right.

    But it's choice to do so is shaped by the society and the legal system.

    I started the thread because I think this is only going to get worse.
    I am very sorry, kmiller. I have never arranged anyone's funeral but I know people who were in conflict over the details with their house of worship.

    Not pleasant or comforting, I wouldn't think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I am very sorry, kmiller. I have never arranged anyone's funeral but I know people who were in conflict over the details with their house of worship.

    Not pleasant or comforting, I wouldn't think.
    It actually does have a benefit. You're so busy with those details that it's a distraction from your actual grief. I remember being in that funeral arranging time and worrying about what the day after the funeral would be like when I didn't have anything to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    I recall the scene in the movie...Places in the heart, in which the sheriff was shot dead, brought home and placed on the dining table for his wife to clean and prep.

    We've made death as "sanitary" as possible.

    note I don't mean sanitary as in hygienic...I mean it the other way.

    I think that's part of us softening as a society in general. (And I say this as someone who has a mild panic attack at the thought of going without my phone). As a society, we used to eat what we killed and build our own houses. Now someone else does that for us.

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