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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Crocodile dundee was killed in a shootout with police because he did not want to give up his guns after their gun laws changed.

    I don't mean the character, the actor who played the character
    I don't believe this is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post




    Police: About 70 guns stolen from home near Cleveland | WSYX

    Ironical that a gun nut lost his guns in an armed home invasion.

    Jeeze Louise! What would possess anyone to collect so many guns?

    It probably is possible to insure against this loss by paying for a rider on your homeowner's insurance, but query whether that is contrary to public policy?

    Your thoughts?
    There are a lot of collectors of rare guns and otherwise. My Dad had over 100 at one time. Some were rare antiques, silver plated with pearl handles, that he never shot and sold for thousands. He also collects WWI and WWII guns. He keeps them in a iron safe with a combination lock, which he is the only one with the combination..well now, I have the combination, since he is older. He also insured them under his home owners. My sister and I have talked him into to selling them so he can enjoy the money for them while he is still alive and we are not arms dealers and don't know anything about them. It is not unusual for collectors to have that many...and many never fire them at all. Gun theft is a big worry among collectors because if they trace the serial numbers to you...you are investigated. How you store them is important. If you are storing them in a 500 pound gun safe, it is not easy to get them out of the house.

    I would worry more about the "burner" guns that are found in Cleveland dumpsters everyday. The cheap Hi Point guns that cost around 150.00. These are the ones used in a lot of crimes and are throw away guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engine-Ear View Post
    I don't believe this is true.
    Sorry, was slightly mistaken... it was the guy that crocodile dundee was based on... not the actor.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...t-1110770.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Are you going to reimburse them?

    I'm not giving up my gun I spent money on just because the government tells me to.

    Is that even constitutional?
    They did just that in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engine-Ear View Post
    I don't believe this is true.
    It isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post




    Police: About 70 guns stolen from home near Cleveland | WSYX

    Ironical that a gun nut lost his guns in an armed home invasion.

    Jeeze Louise! What would possess anyone to collect so many guns?

    It probably is possible to insure against this loss by paying for a rider on your homeowner's insurance, but query whether that is contrary to public policy?

    Your thoughts?
    I've known men who had more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    There are a lot of collectors of rare guns and otherwise. My Dad had over 100 at one time. Some were rare antiques, silver plated with pearl handles, that he never shot and sold for thousands. He also collects WWI and WWII guns. He keeps them in a iron safe with a combination lock, which he is the only one with the combination..well now, I have the combination, since he is older. He also insured them under his home owners. My sister and I have talked him into to selling them so he can enjoy the money for them while he is still alive and we are not arms dealers and don't know anything about them. It is not unusual for collectors to have that many...and many never fire them at all. Gun theft is a big worry among collectors because if they trace the serial numbers to you...you are investigated. How you store them is important. If you are storing them in a 500 pound gun safe, it is not easy to get them out of the house.

    I would worry more about the "burner" guns that are found in Cleveland dumpsters everyday. The cheap Hi Point guns that cost around 150.00. These are the ones used in a lot of crimes and are throw away guns.
    Apparently, the Garfield Heights victim also stored his weapons in a safe. However, few people are willing to die to protect their property.

    Not should they, obviously.

    If I belonged to your family, I would press your dad to choose a dealer and place his entire collection on consignment. Failing that, I would ask him to allow me to move the guns to a storage unit, still inside the safe. Keeping them at home makes your dad a huge target for burglars.

    Nothing is more attractive to certain criminals than an elder, living alone among valuable, disposable property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    He's one of the three per cent who own 48% of America's civilian guns. Well, he used to be.
    Actually, some 1/3 of us citizens own firearms according to the mainstream media. I live in a state where the number is higher than that.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-finds-n384031

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Are you going to reimburse them?

    I'm not giving up my gun I spent money on just because the government tells me to.

    Is that even constitutional?
    No, it would violate the 5th amendment prohibition against taking without compensation. Which is certainly an issue, but not an insurmountable obstacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Apparently, the Garfield Heights victim also stored his weapons in a safe. However, few people are willing to die to protect their property.

    Not should they, obviously.

    If I belonged to your family, I would press your dad to choose a dealer and place his entire collection on consignment. Failing that, I would ask him to allow me to move the guns to a storage unit, still inside the safe. Keeping them at home makes your dad a huge target for burglars.

    Nothing is more attractive to certain criminals than an elder, living alone among valuable, disposable property.
    He has sold most of them. He is a older Vet from WII in outstanding physical/mental condition. I pity the burgler that walked into his house uninvited. I worry more about him leaving the drug store in broad daylight...I picture an addict taking him down for his prostate pills. He has already had a batch of them stolen from the front seat of his car. He lives in the South where the neighbors look out for each other and my sister and nephew lives across the street.
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