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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    It wouldn't. I was merely pointing out the fact that you made the claim up from thin air in order to argue a point that is irrelevant to the situation.
    I did not make up a claim. Jones is contractually obligated to pay the players. Why would the article have to state the obvious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    I should have used the word "complaint", rather than lawsuit. Thanks for pointing out that error on my part.

    I'm not arguing that the complaint filed against Jerry Jones with the National Labor Relations Board will result in a successful outcome for the claimant.
    I see. We're in agreement there. Seems to be a lot of petty attention grabbing going on around this "kneeling for the anthem" thing. I really don't care about it at all. Let them kneel. Maybe focus instead on actual current events?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I see. We're in agreement there. Seems to be a lot of petty attention grabbing going on around this "kneeling for the anthem" thing. I really don't care about it at all. Let them kneel. Maybe focus instead on actual current events?
    Tell it to the President. To the best of my knowledge, there is no legal requirement for a US citizen to participate in ritual observance of either the US flag or the National Anthem. This "issue" is nothing more than an attempt to distract the American public from the dismal failure that is the Donald Trump presidency.

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    A labor union that represents workers in Texas, Arkansas and Louisiana has filed a charge alleging that Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has violated the National Labor Relations Act with his threats to discipline players if they protest during the national anthem.

    Wade Rathke, chief organizer of Local 100, accuses Jones of violating the act, which prohibits employers from intimidating or threatening workers for their "concerted activity."
    Labor union files complaint against Jerry Jones over anthem threat

    ok, as far as this goes, I'm a bit out of my league.

    See what I did there.

    No idea this was coming or than the players even qualified for protections under the National Labor Relation Act.
    I don't know how well that's gonna go. "concerted activity" usually covers union activities, like meetings, organizing, grievances, etc. If they are "protesting something on company property that is outside of the contracts purview, then "free speech" as such won't be covered.

    It'll be interesting to see how it goes given the dynamics of the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I don't know how well that's gonna go. "concerted activity" usually covers union activities, like meetings, organizing, grievances, etc. If they are "protesting something on company property that is outside of the contracts purview, then "free speech" as such won't be covered.

    It'll be interesting to see how it goes given the dynamics of the issue.
    Personally, I don't find either the NFL or the response of NFL players to the pre-game performance of the national anthem to be of much interest. To each his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Tell it to the President. To the best of my knowledge, there is no legal requirement for a US citizen to participate in ritual observance of either the US flag or the National Anthem. This "issue" is nothing more than an attempt to distract the American public from the dismal failure that is the Donald Trump presidency.
    Don't act like I'm an ardent Trump supporter. I recognize him as the foremost attention whore in the country. And he's not even the slightest bit abashed about it. The worst thing that could happen to him is the country largely ignoring his antics and focusing on facts, evidence and policy issues. How likely do you think that is, that liberals would ignore him? They look rather obsessed with him, if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Personally, I don't find either the NFL or the response of NFL players to the pre-game performance of the national anthem to be of much interest. To each his own.
    I don;t like it myself; it opens up doors, and as we have seen that door can be abused. That's why I don't watch award shows anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I don't know how well that's gonna go. "concerted activity" usually covers union activities, like meetings, organizing, grievances, etc. If they are "protesting something on company property that is outside of the contracts purview, then "free speech" as such won't be covered.

    It'll be interesting to see how it goes given the dynamics of the issue.
    well, I'd just argue that just because something usually covers something doesn't mean that's all it covers. I haven't seen much in the way of addressing the "other activities" portion of the labor laws. Even if that particular section doesn't apply it's clear this is a labor issue - and Trump should butt out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I don;t like it myself; it opens up doors, and as we have seen that door can be abused. That's why I don't watch award shows anymore.
    I have no idea WTF you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    well, I'd just argue that just because something usually covers something doesn't mean that's all it covers. I haven't seen much in the way of addressing the "other activities" portion of the labor laws. Even if that particular section doesn't apply it's clear this is a labor issue - and Trump should butt out.

    The contracts a very specific about labor actions. The right to protest something on employer's property may not be covered.

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