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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    Oh i think its a game....a game of winning.

    and let me tell you why. For all the bullshit that goes on in court, for all of the arguing and back and forth...... you get out of court (the laywers) and your can still be good friends.
    That does not make it a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    That does not make it a game.
    For me it does. Its your smarts and wits against someone else. Its about who can dig up the most obscure law to support your case. Its trying to get a jury to see things your way. Its trying to get the best results over whoever you are agents.

    Its chess and poker and monopoly all in one. Winner takes it all.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    For me it does. Its your smarts and wits against someone else. Its about who can dig up the most obscure law to support your case. Its trying to get a jury to see things your way. Its trying to get the best results over whoever you are agents.

    Its chess and poker and monopoly all in one. Winner takes it all.....
    Again, this is the way the system is built, and for a reason. It does not make it a "game," except metaphorically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Again, this is the way the system is built, and for a reason. It does not make it a "game," except metaphorically.
    I know its built that way for a reason. There is a difference between the "system"... and lawyering.

    The lawyering part is a game. A lawyer choosing jurors is part of that game....so ill play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Wow. Not big on civic duty, I see....
    Called twice, not chosen.
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    I've been called twice. The 1st time I'd been discharged from the Army for a total of 3 weeks lol. That notice went straight to the garbage. The 2nd time I called to report and was dismissed over the phone. If I'm summoned again I'll do my best to serve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    my standard answer to that question is:

    seat me and take your chances. My fair and impartial is subjective and dependent to who is listening.

    I am not going to tell them straight out that yes i would be fair and impartial.... but i WILL say anything to get the hell out of jury duty.
    I found jury duty absolutely Fascinating I was on a case and we were sequestered overnight and I miss judged how I thought every juror would think. We gave the guy every single benefit of the doubt but found him guilty. The funny thing is years later I was being interviewed for a jury and I was disqualified. The lawyer who was asking the questions came over to me and said, “you cut your hair it looks very nice” it turns out he was the lawyer on the case that I had been on years ago and remembered me and had to disqualify me

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Called twice, not chosen.
    I honestly do not know why I have been never called for jury duty. I am pretty average on paper. The only thing I can think of...my speeding tickets or driving record may have disqualified me.

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    I just got back from my participation in civic duty sitting all morning in a jury pool. It wasn't too bad and luckily the people in this city are super nice and easy to talk to.

    Finally I get called to be on a selection/panel for a case regarding a man (who was present) charged with animal cruelty. While I wasn't provided details, I did see photos on the People's table of the animal and it looked like a cat who had been injured/shot in the eye. Living still, but clearly injured.

    Upon announcing the charge, a woman sitting in the potential alternatives stated "I can't hear this case, I need to leave" and she promptly got up and walked out. The judge asked us not to allow that to affect us but it clearly did.

    People and Defense both had 15 min each to ask the panel any questions they wanted - and based on the woman's proclamation you could see it did have a clear effect on us. Luckily people were honest but many were too honest in my opinion:

    - One man admitted he had no clue how the court system works and all he cared about is why he needed to be there.
    - And one woman broke out crying (probably from the pressure and being nervous) when asked direct questions.
    - Even though it is the law - many people openly admitted they would not be able to be impartial based on the charge alone. Where there is smoke there is fire - kinda thinking.

    It was so bad, they dismissed all of us and postponed the selection until they could find 12 people (6 needed and 6 alternatives) who could admit they would find it in themselves to be impartial and objective.

    And that is the point of my post. It was very clear that many people had a bag full of excuses why they would be unable to be impartial. I suspect most were being honest but I also suspect that some of excuses was simply so they wouldn't be picked and could go home.

    Your job as a juror is to be impartial, objective and put aside your emotions to examine the facts in the case and decide if there is any reasonable doubt. And I was surprised (I shouldn't have been) in how willing people are to tell a judge they won't be able to follow the law. There isn't enough education on this fact going in. I believe courts need to do a better job of educating those who they call on for civic duty.
    I could be impartial and would be even if seething inside. That would be my duty. Those are the rules. Have never been called.

    (Was called for a deposition and called to appear as a witness in a case, a man broke into my office building one night and I called the cops and they caught him, arrested and charged him. I was scheduled as a witness and he plea bargained at the last minute. Fucked up my day, very last minute).
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    I've been called twice but was unable to because the business I was working for at the time could not afford for any employee to be absent for more than a day or two. But if I was called today I would show up and give honest answers to whatever they asked. And I believe I could be impartial.
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