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    If I'm for the constitution, why would you not think I'm for article V? I'm for the whole document. Including article V.

    The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.


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    I'm very much a strong proponent of a constituional convention. In fact we are close.
    Another area in which we disagree. With today's extremism, a Convention would make an huge, unfixable mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by californiadecks View Post
    Don't get hung up on trying to prove me wrong. I'm for the constitutional way of changing the constitution. It's really pretty simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    So, start a political party based on your beliefs, no one going to stop you.
    Name any political party that isn't based on beliefs. And it's not necessarily a political party just because it's my beliefs.


    But it is something to think about. I'm certainly not alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Another area in which we disagree. With today's extremism, a Convention would make an huge, unfixable mess.
    Don't be scared. If it's too be, it will be the will of the people. If we bury our heads in the sand we will continue to be controlled by politicians. We need term limits as a starter. The whole reason for a convention of the state's is for times like these. It's my opinion the time has come. We need to put the brakes on Washington and take back our country. The legal civilized way.

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    There are some basics I think all of us can agree to. I think term limits are one.

    I also think the delegates should be split up by each states districts. So the people in Marin county don't get to make the decision for us in Orange County for example. But that is probably pushing it.

    So if it's just to get term limits that will go along way to help take the policy away from lobbyist. If a congressional leaders only concern is self preservation, the lobbyist will continue to dump money in re-election campaigns. If there is no re-election campaign no lobbyists. Or not near as powerful anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiadecks View Post
    Don't be scared. If it's too be, it will be the will of the people.
    Some of the people, sure. It does not take much for an article to pass a Convention and be proposed to the states, whether it goes to the legislatures or conventions. From there, it is not too difficult for extremists to take it to the next level and approve the proposed amendments, or even a whole new constitution. My bet is that the freedom and liberty you would hope for will be swept away.

    Quote Originally Posted by californiadecks View Post
    If we bury our heads in the sand we will continue to be controlled by politicians.
    We are not controlled by politicians. If we did not want them, we would not keep voting for them.

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    We need to ... take back our country.
    From whom, one might ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Some of the people, sure. It does not take much for an article to pass a Convention and be proposed to the states, whether it goes to the legislatures or conventions. From there, it is not too difficult for extremists to take it to the next level and approve the proposed amendments, or even a whole new constitution. My bet is that the freedom and liberty you would hope for will be swept away.


    We are not controlled by politicians. If we did not want them, we would not keep voting for them.


    From whom, one might ask?
    You are absolutely enslaved by your politicians. We need to take back our country from them. You are owned by the banks, big businesses that dump money into your politicians pockets. If the politicians owe there survival to big business, who are they really beholden too? This is why they will say what you want to hear, to get your vote, (cough Paul Ryan)but what they actually do is a completely different thing.

    If you don't think big pharma and healthcare giants aren't the reason we didn't get an appeal of the bill, I've got an island to sell you in the South China Sea.

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    Well, hello Mike. Interesting to see you here. You must have gotten bored of the trade boards like I did.

    Do yourself a favor and don't try to get away with unsourced copy and paste quotes here. Looks like your already testing the waters at the top of the page.

    Anyway, welcome aboard. I suspect there are two or three "constitutionalists" types here that you'll get right along with. Most of this board though is the type of left of center posters you so like to argue with. So, have fun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by californiadecks View Post
    You are absolutely enslaved by your politicians.
    This sounds like you are not an American....

    Quote Originally Posted by californiadecks View Post
    We need to take back our country from them.
    Simply vote for someone else. How hard is that?

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