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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    People on this site exploded like a 10 year old who lost at Fallout 3. It was fucking awesome!
    I'm not entirely sure this response could be considered under the trade descriptions act, as exploding like a 10 year old who lost at a video game -

    "Whilst I appreciate your (eventual) honesty - I cannot help but feel somewhat used by the initial deception. I responded in good faith to your claims, and do not entirely appreciate being used without consent in some sort of social experiment. That is not the purpose of a political discussion forum, nor the reason I post here.

    I bear you no ill-will, and welcome the real entity to the forum, but I will treat your future posts with some reservation
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    Misrepresentation by some insecure kid who wants to be seen as 'important' is not unknown (but fairly easily discerned on an adult forum,) and when I joined this place as a 12 year old, I was tempted (but happily, I resisted,) to do that so people here would take me more seriously. I had just enough sense to realise that (a) once you tell a lie like that, you have to keep up the deception, and invent a whole false persona for as long as you are a member. And (b) I didn't know enough about anything to convince anyone that I was a fighter pilot in the air force, or a research scientist, or anything I might have considered important or glamorous at that stage.

    That sort of deception would have been bad enough - but the lack of respect involved in some sort of social experiment which relied upon the trust of people who come here to sensibly discuss issues of importance to them, and culminates in a sort of 'gotcha' moment - is something else entirely.

    So no cranial explosions - but I will continue to treat this member's posts with some reservation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo2 View Post
    I'm not entirely sure this response could be considered under the trade descriptions act, as exploding like a 10 year old who lost at a video game -

    "Whilst I appreciate your (eventual) honesty - I cannot help but feel somewhat used by the initial deception. I responded in good faith to your claims, and do not entirely appreciate being used without consent in some sort of social experiment. That is not the purpose of a political discussion forum, nor the reason I post here.

    I bear you no ill-will, and welcome the real entity to the forum, but I will treat your future posts with some reservation
    ."

    Misrepresentation by some insecure kid who wants to be seen as 'important' is not unknown (but fairly easily discerned on an adult forum,) and when I joined this place as a 12 year old, I was tempted (but happily, I resisted,) to do that so people here would take me more seriously. I had just enough sense to realise that (a) once you tell a lie like that, you have to keep up the deception, and invent a whole false persona for as long as you are a member. And (b) I didn't know enough about anything to convince anyone that I was a fighter pilot in the air force, or a research scientist, or anything I might have considered important or glamorous at that stage.

    That sort of deception would have been bad enough - but the lack of respect involved in some sort of social experiment which relied upon the trust of people who come here to sensibly discuss issues of importance to them, and culminates in a sort of 'gotcha' moment - is something else entirely.

    So no cranial explosions - but I will continue to treat this member's posts with some reservation.

    **Infinite finger snap**



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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Greenbean View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    Greenbean here. For the past month a friend and me have been developing a youtube series with a character kinda of relateable to Dwight Shrute from the office. It's about a guy who takes neighborhood watch way to seriously. I decided to be this guy for a bit (stupid I know) so I could see how I wanted to develop my character.

    Apologize for any silliness.

    BTW I'm James (Jim, either one).
    Hello, Jim. Looks like you nailed an "officer's" position in your friendly local fictional NW.......or would that be real?

    You're demonstrating just how easy or hard things are on the internet where text rules and in some cases a fictional army of bots, named "Tex" rule.

    What's hard is anyone knowing, aside from intuition and observation of one's expression via text, whether someone is at their keyboard and "here" (at any interactive website) to be any number of things, including who they are in real life away from their keyboard to anything from someone who believes they can rile others up and make them angry, simply as a form of entertainment for them, testing how easy it is to manipulate people, either by angering them or getting them to agree, via words, only.

    In this world of communications technology and those moving towards AI (artificial intelligence) the line between fiction, fantasy, lies and the truth becomes more and more blurred and harder to recognize. While it may be something used to work for us, at the same time, it can be used to work against us, so I'm not really sure where it lands in the cost/benefit analysis. Are we truly making something better, making something even worse or are we simply perpetuating the same works for/against us to a new degree, level, plane. It's not that much different than arms races, the evolution of arms and the often small windows of "advantage" any developers of new weapons get, before everyone has the same weaponry and the playing field is leveled. So did the new weapon really mean much or did it only make humanity more threatened by anyone that might use those advanced weapons, setting off a chain reaction of like responses?

    If you're truly here to develop who you'll be "playing" in a depiction of a fictional characters (who may or may not represent real characters in any society or even in cyberspace) it still remains interesting to see how you have been responded to. Anyone here could be here for the same purpose or some other reason, as posers, as political shills assigned to political forums, boards, blogs for the purpose of manipulating or simply gauging thought or, as you have told us (how would we truly know otherwise?) here to practice for a part in a video with a fictional storyline. A large part of humanity has jumped into using mass reaching communications technology without thinking a whole lot about how it can be used against them, in addition to the ways any of them may use it to their advantage. In many ways it is a double edged sword, which in turn is in many ways, no different than so many other things. Humans just have to sort out how to use all this technology and be more aware of how it can hurt them as much as help them and how there are others using the technology for ways that few would argue are NOT good, while others use the technology in ways and for purposes that are indisputably bad and harmful directly to some other individual or to society as a whole.

    Anyway, it seems we should all be aware that everyone is "here" for a huge variety of reasons and even if they're "faking" or "playing" the part of someone they really are not, bits and pieces of their real personality (be it decent or terrible) seem to leak through their "act" so to speak. Without spending an equal amount of time in the physical presence of one another, (and even then) there is no real way to know the more genuine character of one another other than by intuition and perhaps a combination of the use of observation and collective life experiences with other people where patterns of "behavior" might be identified. "Here" we have no facial/physical recognition, movement, expressions to help us identify personality, only words, but it still seems amazing how much text alone, can express a personality and characteristics of someone, especially over a period of time and even through any "masks" they might be wearing.

    Now that you have taken off one mask and revealed you were wearing one here, the observant will still be tentative and skeptical about where you are coming from and seeking to see those bits and pieces of what's behind anyone's obvious anonymity here.

    The internet and social media have become a psychologists and psychiatrist's dream come true, as far as the potential to study how humans use their minds and tools such as this to interact, even manipulate the thinking of others with deception, anonymity and the ease with which, reduced to text only, people are forced to trust initially, what they see, because they initially have little input for their senses to identify reasons to NOT trust, what they are seeing. As mentioned, it is different from meeting someone face to face, but in some ways, not really different. Even people we meet face to face, where we have access to a lot more sensory input, deception is still possible.

    Enjoy, either your time here, either as training for your fictional character or as the "real" anonymous YOU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    Hello, Jim. Looks like you nailed an "officer's" position in your friendly local fictional NW.......or would that be real?

    You're demonstrating just how easy or hard things are on the internet where text rules and in some cases a fictional army of bots, named "Tex" rule.

    What's hard is anyone knowing, aside from intuition and observation of one's expression via text, whether someone is at their keyboard and "here" (at any interactive website) to be any number of things, including who they are in real life away from their keyboard to anything from someone who believes they can rile others up and make them angry, simply as a form of entertainment for them, testing how easy it is to manipulate people, either by angering them or getting them to agree, via words, only.

    In this world of communications technology and those moving towards AI (artificial intelligence) the line between fiction, fantasy, lies and the truth becomes more and more blurred and harder to recognize. While it may be something used to work for us, at the same time, it can be used to work against us, so I'm not really sure where it lands in the cost/benefit analysis. Are we truly making something better, making something even worse or are we simply perpetuating the same works for/against us to a new degree, level, plane. It's not that much different than arms races, the evolution of arms and the often small windows of "advantage" any developers of new weapons get, before everyone has the same weaponry and the playing field is leveled. So did the new weapon really mean much or did it only make humanity more threatened by anyone that might use those advanced weapons, setting off a chain reaction of like responses?

    If you're truly here to develop who you'll be "playing" in a depiction of a fictional characters (who may or may not represent real characters in any society or even in cyberspace) it still remains interesting to see how you have been responded to. Anyone here could be here for the same purpose or some other reason, as posers, as political shills assigned to political forums, boards, blogs for the purpose of manipulating or simply gauging thought or, as you have told us (how would we truly know otherwise?) here to practice for a part in a video with a fictional storyline. A large part of humanity has jumped into using mass reaching communications technology without thinking a whole lot about how it can be used against them, in addition to the ways any of them may use it to their advantage. In many ways it is a double edged sword, which in turn is in many ways, no different than so many other things. Humans just have to sort out how to use all this technology and be more aware of how it can hurt them as much as help them and how there are others using the technology for ways that few would argue are NOT good, while others use the technology in ways and for purposes that are indisputably bad and harmful directly to some other individual or to society as a whole.

    Anyway, it seems we should all be aware that everyone is "here" for a huge variety of reasons and even if they're "faking" or "playing" the part of someone they really are not, bits and pieces of their real personality (be it decent or terrible) seem to leak through their "act" so to speak. Without spending an equal amount of time in the physical presence of one another, (and even then) there is no real way to know the more genuine character of one another other than by intuition and perhaps a combination of the use of observation and collective life experiences with other people where patterns of "behavior" might be identified. "Here" we have no facial/physical recognition, movement, expressions to help us identify personality, only words, but it still seems amazing how much text alone, can express a personality and characteristics of someone, especially over a period of time and even through any "masks" they might be wearing.

    Now that you have taken off one mask and revealed you were wearing one here, the observant will still be tentative and skeptical about where you are coming from and seeking to see those bits and pieces of what's behind anyone's obvious anonymity here.

    The internet and social media have become a psychologists and psychiatrist's dream come true, as far as the potential to study how humans use their minds and tools such as this to interact, even manipulate the thinking of others with deception, anonymity and the ease with which, reduced to text only, people are forced to trust initially, what they see, because they initially have little input for their senses to identify reasons to NOT trust, what they are seeing. As mentioned, it is different from meeting someone face to face, but in some ways, not really different. Even people we meet face to face, where we have access to a lot more sensory input, deception is still possible.

    Enjoy, either your time here, either as training for your fictional character or as the "real" anonymous YOU!
    Thank you for this incredibly long welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Greenbean View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    Greenbean here. For the past month a friend and me have been developing a youtube series with a character kinda of relateable to Dwight Shrute from the office. It's about a guy who takes neighborhood watch way to seriously. I decided to be this guy for a bit (stupid I know) so I could see how I wanted to develop my character.

    Apologize for any silliness.

    BTW I'm James (Jim, either one).
    The wind up was none too subtle, but amazingly amusing to watch the frustration of others at your behest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Greenbean View Post
    There were no O3 slots open.
    Unless you were a pool watch captain, then you'd be an O6.

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