View Poll Results: Flawed but fixable or UK-style upheaval?

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Thread: So we can vote for a flawed but fixable system or vote for UK-style upheaval

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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    We are flawed. I am not convinced we are fixable at this point. The whole establishment needs to be changed. The power structure needs to be changed. The law needs to be followed. The people need to rise up.

    The thought of upheaval makes me nervous, but I don't see how a Hillary win starts the process of any change at all.

    I may be on the side of upheaval.,
    I am sitting here.

    I won't vote for either Clinton or Trump. My strongest vote against both parties and the candidates is a 3rd party vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprockey View Post
    I am sitting here.

    I won't vote for either Clinton or Trump. My strongest vote against both parties and the candidates is a 3rd party vote.
    Am thinking that is evident in the large numbers of people registering as independent. They may lean left or right but view both parties as problematic. If you look at early polling, we are seeing unusual third party polling with both doing well at this point. If they got in the debates, there is no doubt, they would get a lot more votes as they seem less likely to be marching in lock step. There is more sticking to ideals rather than a finger in the wind as to how public opinion is swaying. People, especially the younger one is, are fed up with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Am thinking that is evident in the large numbers of people registering as independent. They may lean left or right but view both parties as problematic. If you look at early polling, we are seeing unusual third party polling with both doing well at this point. If they got in the debates, there is no doubt, they would get a lot more votes as they seem less likely to be marching in lock step. There is more sticking to ideals rather than a finger in the wind as to how public opinion is swaying. People, especially the younger one is, are fed up with that.
    Millennials voted for Obama twice (there was a belief they wouldn't in 2012 but they did though less than 2008 by 4 points) and Sanders in the 2016 Democratic primary. Most of the millennials will end up voting for either Clinton or Stein or not at all. That should cover it.

    Millenniala are equal in size to baby boomers in terms of eligibility to vote. It remains to be seen when they assume the largest bloc of actual voters.

    Millennials match Baby Boomers as share of electorate. Will they vote? | Pew Research Center

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    Upheaval that might take 20-30 years to sort out.

    So which are we going to do? And remember, supporting anything other than a candidate who can beat Trump is a vote for upheaval.

    What's your rationale?
    Keep your hands and feet INSIDE the car kids! We're almost at the top!
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