View Poll Results: Flawed but fixable or UK-style upheaval?

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Thread: So we can vote for a flawed but fixable system or vote for UK-style upheaval

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARMCX1 View Post
    Well, the conditions you stipulate pretty much means Clinton. That's cool.

    It's no secret I have issues with Hillary in a number of areas but they don't rise to the level that I wouldn't vote at all or vote 3rd party.

    My imperative is to stop Trump.
    It's nuts to not vote, vote third party or vote for Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    A Clinton administration can be your piņata. Mine too. I'm sure Sanders will take some swings. A Trump administration will be like hitting a six-foot Jello mold, as far as getting any response.

    If you're under 50, healthy and have your kids' college lined up, go for it. I'm not.
    I understand that, and know that where people are at in their lives can mean different perceptions. I have no issues with that.

    I don't disagree that a Trump presidency could have some serious negative consequences. Although I am not as convinced as some that its the end of the country as we know it. What I see as a possibility is that a Trump presidency brings the parties together to fight against Trump and could be an eye opener to the parties and the people to begin the process of the drastic change we need.

    So I don't see Trump as the man with the answers, I see him as a potential agent for change unwittingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    If I remember correctly that was the height of the Bush recession. 313Points! We lost half the DOW in the recession. That sure was not Obama. He did not become President until over two months later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    I understand that, and know that where people are at in their lives can mean different perceptions. I have no issues with that.

    I don't disagree that a Trump presidency could have some serious negative consequences. Although I am not as convinced as some that its the end of the country as we know it. What I see as a possibility is that a Trump presidency brings the parties together to fight against Trump and could be an eye opener to the parties and the people to begin the process of the drastic change we need.

    So I don't see Trump as the man with the answers, I see him as a potential agent for change unwittingly.
    But we're not coming together now. Why would we come together later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    It's nuts to not vote, vote third party or vote for Trump.
    It doesn't matter who wins. One is an unprepared man child who's every horrible thought goes straight from the lizard portion of his brain to his mouth. The other is one of the most blatantly corrupt and incompetent politicians of our time. We're screwed either way. IMO, the only rational choice is supporting third parties so that maybe we'll have another option next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    But we're not coming together now. Why would we come together later?
    Look at how many republicans are anti-Trump, or leaving the party. These folks will come together with democrats against the agenda of Trump.

    We aren't coming together now because you can't get anyone outside of Sanders to breaks ranks with the Democrat establishment. I recently said the same about Republicans too until Trump came along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    If I remember correctly that was the height of the Bush recession. 313Points! We lost half the DOW in the recession. That sure was not Obama. He did not become President until over two months later.
    2012 was not the height of any recession.

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    If this system is "fixable", when are people going to start fixing it?


    My vote is for upheaval, but not UK-style upheaval, so I can't answer your poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    Look at how many republicans are anti-Trump, or leaving the party. These folks will come together with democrats against the agenda of Trump.

    We aren't coming together now because you can't get anyone outside of Sanders to breaks ranks with the Democrat establishment. I recently said the same about Republicans too until Trump came along.
    I think Brexit will actually serve as a wake-up call to America to rethink pie-in-the-sky, "Moses-ism."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    If I remember correctly that was the height of the Bush recession. 313Points! We lost half the DOW in the recession. That sure was not Obama. He did not become President until over two months later.
    Obama is probably the second best Republican president we've never had...after Bill Clinton.

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