View Poll Results: Flawed but fixable or UK-style upheaval?

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Thread: So we can vote for a flawed but fixable system or vote for UK-style upheaval

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    And then went up 7000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Remember the Jumbo Mortgage Phase under Bush? fixed rate 15 years, 2.3%,,,

    Everyone else was using their homes as ATMs; I had a 200% equity over the mortgage, and relative to the value (which I knew would take a hit in '08) 400%..

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    Me too, but then I had family who remembered the Great Depression and a real estate agent friend who said the market was ready to tank. He was about three months early in his predictions though.

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    What's upheaval worth to you?

    Worth overturning Roe v Wade or the Civil Rights Act? Will you feel principled and authentic then?

    How much do we have to suffer to gain this nebulous thing that we apparently lack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    I basically agree with that. Problem is that neither Donald Trump nor Hillary Clinton are the person to lead the change we need.
    Tough shit, those are your choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Here is a competing look to that claim that Obama caused the drop.

    Stock Market Collapse: Obama Reelection Not To Blame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    I basically agree with that. Problem is that neither Donald Trump nor Hillary Clinton are the person to lead the change we need.
    Maybe not what you need, But I want the choices Clinton will make.

    Heaven help us all if Trump wins...I can live with Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    It doesn't matter who wins. One is an unprepared man child who's every horrible thought goes straight from the lizard portion of his brain to his mouth. The other is one of the most blatantly corrupt and incompetent politicians of our time. We're screwed either way. IMO, the only rational choice is supporting third parties so that maybe we'll have another option next time.
    You are a full of shit liar. There is no comparison between the two. Hillary is neither corrupt nor incompetent. She has 100% more experience than trump because he has none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    2012 was not the height of any recession.
    It just dropped 500 pts one day and about 300 the next, was that due to Obama? Drops such as this are rarely the fault of the president and overall the market has done nothing buy rise under this admin so your argument is ridiculously fucking stupid. if trump were elected markets worldwide would tumble and so would our credit rating. That would not happen if Hillary won, they would probably rise in relief that we did not elect a fascist dumbshit. to insinuate they are similar in any form or fashion is downright ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Completely ineffectively?
    He didn't start the fucking stupid wars your asshole did. yes they are ineffective but you can't just up and walk out easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    He didn't start the fucking stupid wars your asshole did. yes they are ineffective but you can't just up and walk out easily.
    Points for clarity.

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