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    Should Hart Cellar Act Be Repealed ?

    " Should Hart Celler Be Repealed ? "

    * Political Interrogation *

    Should US 2016 Presidential candidates discuss continuance or discontinuance of Hart-Celler Act ?

    If Hart Cellar Act is not to be repealed , what should happen to levels of legal quota immigration with respect to citizenship ?

    The 1965 amendment doubled previous grants for permanent legal immigrant for citizenship from a level of 175,000 to 350,000 annual , which was initially also based upon consideration for job skills .

    The vast majority of permanent immigration is based upon first come first served , which adds distinct challenges .

    Permanent legal immigrants are estimated near 1.2 million annual and more immigrants have arrived post 1965 than had arrived in the 400 years prior .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr...ty_Act_of_1965
    The proponents of the Hart–Celler Act argued that it would not significantly influence United States culture. President Johnson called the bill "not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions."[16] Secretary of State Dean Rusk and other politicians, including Senator Ted Kennedy, asserted that the bill would not affect US demographic mix.[17] However, scholars point out that the immigration act shifted the ethnic composition of immigrants.[18][19] Specifically, the Hart–Celler Act allowed people to migrate to the United States from Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and Southern and Eastern Europe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_migration

    In the United States, the term 'chain migration' is used to partially explain why legal immigration has quadrupled from levels during the 1960s. As such, 'chain migration' is held up as one of the causes of the United States' current immigrant population boom.

    Family reunification allows U.S. citizens and immigrants (Lawful Permanent Resident or "Green card" holders) to petition for visas for their immediate relatives. Until the late 1950s, America's family reunification policies included only spouses and minor children of immigrants. However, since that time, family reunification policies of the United States have included the ability of immigrants to sponsor not only their minor children and spouses, but also their parents, siblings, and adult children.

    According to the theory of 'chain migration' as applied to immigrants to the United States, subsequent immigrant Lawful Permanent Resident parents and adult children can, in turn, sponsor their other children, parents, etc., thus representing a chain of immigrants following the first family member into the country. In practice, however, the wait times from when the petition is filed until the adult relative is able to enter the U.S. can be as long as 15–20 years (as of 2006). This is a result of backlogs in obtaining a visa number and visa number quotas that only allow 226,000 family-based visas to be issued annually. There are four family-based preference levels:[16]

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    Currently there is a movement against chain migration and its effects. Specifically, the family reunification emphasis of the Hart-Celler Act had the unintended consequence of dramatically increasing levels of migration in general and chain migration in particular. FAIR, the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a conservative think tank, promotes the idea that, “chain migration-and the expectations and long lines it produces-increases illegal immigration.[17] Additionally FAIR argues that, “illegal aliens given amnesty by Congress in 1986 are now fueling naturalization in record numbers. As these former illegal aliens become citizens, all of their immediate relatives qualify to come immediately to the United States, and start new migration chains of their own.”
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    we have no shortage of immigrants,,either legal or illegal..in fact we have a surplus and dont use all we have now..


    why hoard them?
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    Suns of Know Ah Ha Ham Generation Vexed

    " Suns of Know Ha Ah Ham Generation Vexed "

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    we have no shortage of immigrants,,either legal or illegal..in fact we have a surplus and dont use all we have now..
    why hoard them?
    * Ha Shem Antinomian Deceit Defeat *

    Where does the balance lay before assumptions from lbj et.al. , with regard to debts paid to others for establishment of a society based upon racialism ?

    Which are estimates of the expected aliquot in number and in nation of origin for citizenship with inn us ?

    Are citizens inn us presumed to reflect an equal proportion of identities representative of the global demographic ?

    What does the balance vector indicate regarding expectations for us voting blocks , with respect to a capability to promote a greater gross domestic product , with respect to ideological relationships towards public policy , given perhaps indiscriminate considerations for on boarding afforded inn citizenship ?

    Why had it been prior to 1965 that an extension of citizenship for family reunification only included foreign spouses , which did not include a defacto immediate extension of citizenship to family members of foreign spouses ?

    Why had it been prior to 1965 that job skills were given priority for immigration , whereas posterior to 1965 immigration is serviced through some method of selection as a first come first served application process .

    A question to expect is " What are the current statistics for the number and nation of origin for immigrants which arrived to us before the us 1965 immigration reform act related with the number and nation of origin for immigrants which have arrived after the us 1965 immigration reform act ?

    With nearly 1.2 million permanent immigrants per year , have more immigrants arrived since 1965 than had arrived in the 400 years prior ?

    Has whichever debts that were supposedly due for a great society been met ?

    A question from the hart-celler act requires an answer , as the promise of expectations has become contrary to the intentions of congress , should the consequences of extended chain immigration be promoted for public review ?



    * Described State Capitalism Green Energy Plan With Greater Absurdity *


    It was comical that hillary vowed for pursuit of global warming with awl glory whom could abate global warming by exploding a volcano thereby sending us more readily into an imminent mini ice age due in 1500 years .

    Sew , hooray for organic agriculture machinery !

    And , if global warming is a priority , how does flatulent methane bovines ( treading over clear cut forests ) , along with the extinction of biospheres , due two hue mammon population density encroachment , affect environment habitability of free air ?



    * Jacking Among Raiders *

    At times in history a relationship between sons of noah and race were supposed , where haploids for homogeneous black were ascribed to ham , where haploids for homogeneous brown were ascribed to shem , and where haploids for homogeneous white were ascribed to japheth .

    Now mu ham mad was of the lineage with male haploid of shem and a female haploid ham ; thus , as blood lineage was often bequeathed by tradition to first born , perhaps abraham was forlorn with dissonance between granting his bequeath of patriarchal lineage to his first born or to isaac whose mother was also haploid of shem , and perhaps abraham sought to sacrifice ishmael in despair of conflict and , amidst an apologue of phenomenology , chose to make a covenant codified circumcision at the source where eye am mortality according to a genetic religion .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashem
    In Judaism, HaShem (lit. "the name") is used to refer to God, when avoiding God's more formal title, Adonai (lit. "My Master"), see Names of God in Judaism#HaShem


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologue
    An apologue or apolog (from the Greek ἀπόλογος, a "statement" or "account") is a brief fable or allegorical story with pointed or exaggerated details, meant to serve as a pleasant vehicle for a moral doctrine or to convey a useful lesson without stating it explicitly. Unlike a fable, the moral is more important than the narrative details. As with the parable, the apologue is a tool of rhetorical argument used to convince or persuade.




    * Probed Emblems Since Day One Won *

    The current racial paradigm for us fbi records of crime are tabulated in black race versus white race , where brown race is deemed and ethnicity and are include in us fbi statistics as of the white race .

    Census Bureau explores new Middle East North Africa ethnic category | Pew Research Center
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/fedreg_race-ethnicity


    The clad paradigm of ham , shem , japheth to categorized haploid lineages does not necessarily fit consistently with four hues of ewe mammon homogeneous pigmentation .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanin
    There are three basic types of melanin: eumelanin, pheomelanin, and neuromelanin. The most common is eumelanin, of which there are two types—brown eumelanin and black eumelanin. Pheomelanin is a cysteine-containing red polymer of benzothiazine units largely responsible for red hair, among other pigmentation. Neuromelanin is found in the brain, though its function remains obscure.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromelanin
    Neuromelanin gives specific brain sections, such as the substantia nigra or the locus coeruleus, distinct color. It is a type of melanin and similar to other forms of peripheral melanin. It is insoluble in organic compounds, and can be labeled by silver stains. It is called neuromelanin because of its function and the color change that appears in tissues containing it. It contains black/brown pigmented granules. Neuromelanin is found to accumulate during ageing and is found during the first 2–3 years of life. It is believed to protect neurons in the substantia nigra from iron-induced oxidative stress. It is considered a true melanin due to its stable free radical structure and it avidly chelates metals.[6]


    This fits the theme of four versus more clad groups ; the source is contentious and any deserve pity where errant for well intended although missed direction ; such are challenges with life .


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racemization
    In chemistry, racemization is the conversion of an enantiomerically pure mixture (one where only one enantiomer is present) into a mixture where more than one of the enantiomers are present. If the racemization results in a mixture where the D and L enantiomers are present in equal quantities, the resulting sample is described as a racemic mixture, a racemate, or racemic.[1][2] Racemization can proceed through a number of different mechanisms, and it has particular significance in pharmacology as different enantiomer may have different pharmaceutical effects.




    [img]http://www.genetics.org/content/genetics/199/2/267/F3.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1[img]







    This is an interesting map .
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalic_index




    Me thinks this appears to include sum exaggeration ?
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    Too Many Unnecessary Detrimental

    " Too Many Unnecessary Detrimental "

    * First Come First Served *

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/0b4ddc2...l-mexican.html
    While President Trump has his eyes on curbing illegal immigration, federal rules are allowing legal immigrants to "sponsor" several more family members from their countries, according to the Department of Homeland Security. On average, legal immigrants have been sponsoring three additional immigrants. And newly arrived Mexicans are sponsoring an additional six family members. The statistics analyzed by the Center for Immigration Studies find that sponsorships exceed initial immigration numbers. Called "chain migration" because the first immigrant acts as a link to many others legally allowed to follow, the practice is having a huge impact on the U.S.

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    What's the point in repealing it, the left will just let them all in anyways and give them full benefits.

    There is no point in coming here legally anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post

    This fits the theme of four versus more clad groups ; the source is contentious and any deserve pity where errant for well intended although missed direction ; such are challenges with life .


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racemization
    Rerunning the classic Monk-Eye episodes!

    Sorry, but your commentary is too riddled with phonetic gobbledegoop for me to decode it, but what is this supposed to mean?

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    Documenting Coats

    " Documenting Coats "

    * Undertones Of Identity Politics *

    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    Rerunning the classic Monk-Eye episodes!
    Sorry, but your commentary is too riddled with phonetic gobbledegoop for me to decode it, but what is this supposed to mean?
    The part you cited meant that the pseudo-scientific racial paradigm supposed by the three sons of noah from the torah associated brown eumelanin with shem , black eumelanin with ham and non eumelanin with japheth , while it did not include phenomelanin for red , thus being insufficient in potential cursory suppositions for racial categorization .

    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
    " Suns of Know Ha Ah Ham Generation Vexed "

    * Jacking Among Raiders *

    The clad paradigm of ham , shem , japheth to categorized haploid lineages does not necessarily fit consistently with four hues of ewe mammon homogeneous pigmentation .
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanin
    There are three basic types of melanin: eumelanin, pheomelanin, and neuromelanin. The most common is eumelanin, of which there are two types—brown eumelanin and black eumelanin. Pheomelanin is a cysteine-containing red polymer of benzothiazine units largely responsible for red hair, among other pigmentation. Neuromelanin is found in the brain, though its function remains obscure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
    " Documenting Coats "

    * Undertones Of Identity Politics *

    The part you cited meant that the pseudo-scientific racial paradigm supposed by the three sons of noah from the torah associated brown eumelanin with shem , black eumelanin with ham and non eumelanin with japheth , while it did not include phenomelanin for red , thus being insufficient in potential cursory suppositions for racial categorization .
    I said the exact same thing the other day... still no sex. What ya gotta do, women, right ?

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