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  • such political pundits promote an elimination of negative liberties for abortion

    1 33.33%
  • such political pundits expect violations of us 10th and 9th amendments

    2 66.67%
  • such political pundits seek a violation of non aggression principles to forsake negative liberties

    1 33.33%
  • such political pundits seek a violation of non aggression principles to forsake positive liberties

    0 0%
  • such political pundits promote strict control over positive liberties

    1 33.33%
  • such political pundits represent a majority of public opinion

    0 0%
  • such political pundits represent a majority of registered and active voters

    0 0%
  • such political pundits represent an inconsistency for constitution lists regarding abortion wrights

    1 33.33%
  • such political pundits should seek non nomian legalism

    1 33.33%
  • such political pundits do represent entitlements to participate in abortion

    1 33.33%
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    Polemicist Supremum Monk-Eye's Avatar
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    Abortion : Anti US Tenth Ninth Amendment Polity Pundits : Description Distribution

    " Abortion : Anti US Tenth Ninth Amendment Polity Pundits : Description Distribution "


    * Bark King A Gain Angst Individual Self Own Ship Determination *

    The question through imposition is this , " Why is it evident that those opposed to federalism exclaiming fervently as constitutional lists then laud statism ( anti federalism ) to oppress negative liberties due to individual citizens via a us tenth then ninth amendment ? " .


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    Which terms are sufficient qualifiers associated with this identifier , " Pundits lauding statism over federalism while claiming to be constitutional lists seeking to criminalize abortion procedures " ?

    a . such political pundits promote an elimination of negative liberties for abortion
    b . such political pundits expect violations of us 10th and 9th amendments at the state and federal level
    c . such political pundits seek a violation of non aggression principles to forsake negative liberties implicitly entitled through individualism
    d . such political pundits seek a violation of non aggression principles to forsake positive liberties not implicitly entitled through individualism
    e . such political pundits promote strict control over positive liberties afforded for abortion procedures as provided by state or federal budgets which had been acquired through indirect taxation of commerce
    f . such political pundits represent a majority of public opinion
    g . such political pundits represent a majority of registered and active voters
    h . such political pundits represent an inconsistency for constitution lists which assert a legitimacy of 10th and 9th federal amendments regarding abortion wrights
    i . such political pundits should seek non nomian legalism Political Policy Psychological Pathology
    j . such political pundits do represent entitlement to individual citizens to participate in abortion as provisioned through us constitutional law - Constitutional Review Of Abortion



    * Constitution Fact Object Identifier *


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninth_...s_Constitution
    The amendment as proposed by Congress in 1789 reads as follows:
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_...s_Constitution
    The full text of the amendment reads as follows:
    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.[5]

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    Why not give [a] ...or [some] examples of Supreme Court rulings upholding the right to abortion by denying a state's privilege?

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States

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    Statism over Federalism, since that is your question makes it pretty clear.

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    Statism over Federalism, since that is your question makes it pretty clear.
    * And Tie Statism Federalism Four Individualism *

    Sew , is yearn vote cast against negative liberties of individualism with respect to abortion ?

    Sew , is yearn vote cast against a proposition that individual liberties are superior against statists as well as federalists as prescribed in 10th and 9th us amendments ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
    " Bureaucratic Big Brother Introduces Little Booger "


    * And Tie Statism Federalism Four Individualism *

    Sew , is yearn vote cast against negative liberties of individualism with respect to abortion ?

    Sew , is yearn vote cast against a proposition that individual liberties are superior against statists as well as federalists as prescribed in 10th and 9th us amendments ?
    The ninth and tenth amendments have for all intents and purposes been dismantled by the Supreme Court. Statism has lost to federalism. Remember that our system failed under statism with the Articles of Confederation. However the constitution does allow us, not so much individual rights, but a process to put our beliefs into law. So what I or you think no longer matters, its what society deems necessary that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Why not give [a] ...or [some] examples of Supreme Court rulings upholding the right to abortion by denying a state's privilege?
    * Row Veer Wave *

    Such is rhetorical given current abortion rulings .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    The ninth and tenth amendments have for all intents and purposes been dismantled by the Supreme Court. Statism has lost to federalism. Remember that our system failed under statism with the Articles of Confederation. However the constitution does allow us, not so much individual rights, but a process to put our beliefs into law. So what I or you think no longer matters, its what society deems necessary that is.
    There are some aspects where statism has been lost to federalism because of federalism ; there are some aspects where statism has been lost to federalism because of individualism .

    Where statists or federalists establish positive wrights endowing positive liberties , there will continue to be contention for funding from anti-federalists and ant-statists even when funds are gathered through indirect taxation .

    Where anti-statists or anti-federalists establish negative wrights or positive wrights which endow negative liberties , a greater understanding of individualism may be perceived .
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    * Antinomian Individualism *

    Loud are bellows of antifederalism described as encroaching federal jurisdiction upon state jurisdiction or upon individual jurisdiction in deciding the validity of public policy .

    Meek are murmurings of antistatism described as encroaching state jurisdiction upon individual jurisdiction in deciding the validity of public policy .

    When federal jurisdiction enforces the 9th and 10th amendments against state jurisdiction encroaching upon individual jurisdiction , such is not an antifederalism issue as it is an antistatism issue .

    The 14th amendment delineates individual jurisdiction upon receipt of citizenship or equal protection at birth .

    Whenever a wright to life is dissected before congress it had better be understood by all in attendance that roe v wade is consistent with the 9th , 10th and 14th amendments !

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    I think the basic premise is this...

    Since an abortion ban would effect ONLY women (obviously, from a biological standpoint)....it would be inherently discriminatory. One group of Americans would be denied rights based on gender (same as basing it on race or ethnicity or religion or sexual orientation or whatever).

    Ruling after ruling from the Courts for decades have stated that States do NOT have the right to engage in discriminatory laws. "Equal protection" from the 14th Amendment clearly upholds that.

    So since you can't "ban men from having abortions" as a legitimate and serious legal premise and thus create a law that would effect ALL citizens....it is un-Constitutional to ban abortion, as it creates UN-equal protection under the law for women.

    So Roe trumps (no pun) federalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    I think the basic premise is this...
    Since an abortion ban would effect ONLY women (obviously, from a biological standpoint)....it would be inherently discriminatory. One group of Americans would be denied rights based on gender (same as basing it on race or ethnicity or religion or sexual orientation or whatever).
    Ruling after ruling from the Courts for decades have stated that States do NOT have the right to engage in discriminatory laws. "Equal protection" from the 14th Amendment clearly upholds that.
    So since you can't "ban men from having abortions" as a legitimate and serious legal premise and thus create a law that would effect ALL citizens....it is un-Constitutional to ban abortion, as it creates UN-equal protection under the law for women.
    So Roe trumps (no pun) federalism.
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    The premise is interesting ; thanks .

    Could a premise to avert discrimination include a voting method where only women are able to pull levers to ratify propositions defined for abortion ?

    Due interests of a state include clauses requiring non discrimination between individual citizens , which is in compliance with non aggression principles and consistent with us tenth and ninth amendments .


    * Anecdotal Expectation *

    The timelines for the onset of feet all viability and the onset of feet all sentience are coincidental .

    JAMA has established that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalam...cal_radiations are required for sentience and their physical formation does not begin any earlier than twenty three weeks , with sentience not expect any earlier than twenty six weeks .

    Per roe^wade , the twenty four week standard for viability stipulates a fourteenth amendment criteria that , to receive wrights as a citizen , an individual must have been born , and equal protection with a citizen requires birth ; also , after viability , birth was deemed relative whence a state interest grew on behalf of a potential individual citizen .

    Rather than constitutional , a sentience assertion proposes a precept that empathy is a criteria to represent a feet us by proxy .

    Rather than constitutional , a sentience assertion proposes a precept that sentience is a criteria to be included in a homo sapiens sapiens category .
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