View Poll Results: What will happen to the PPACA (Obamacare) not that Trump's been elected?

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  • Nothing: Trump won't be able to change it

    1 5.56%
  • Trump and the republicans will eliminate it

    5 27.78%
  • It will get changes made but remain

    10 55.56%
  • He'll shoot for Universal Health Care at the horror of the republicans

    2 11.11%
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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Health Savings Accounts are a brilliant concept that works well. Motivates people to NOT run to the doctor every time they have a sniffle or an ache.
    No, not a good plan. I would be bankrupt within a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One View Post
    No, not a good plan. I would be bankrupt within a month.
    There is nothing inherent to a health savings account type of plan bankrupts anybody.

    Right now we're paying after tax dollars for health care. HSA models effectively reduce the tax burden on those unlucky enough to have to buy lots of health care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    These are good things...tho. It is so weird tho, the Trump last week was a raging maniac and this week he is normal.
    Last week he was a salesman trying to close a very large deal. This week he is a totally green public sector manager in training. The former has been his life. The upcoming role demands humility.
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    The entire healthcare industry needs to be less socialized. Injecting a little bit of the free market into healthcare will go a long long way to reducing prices and increase quality. They're also talking about cutting down more of the red tape in the FDA. Apparently there are 4,000 drugs waiting approval. The bureaucracy needs to end. It seems like the more government has become involved in the healthcare of its citizens, the more complicated, colluded, and corrupt the industry has become. Gee what a stunner. Whodathunk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicnam View Post
    We'll have to wait and see....

    Until then the premiums are going up!
    Cute Avatar, nicnam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I actually hope he does. There are a lot that could use a kick in the butt or an early retirement!
    Mitch is already out there spouting his old ideas. I am glad Reid is gone. I do not care for Chuck Schumer, but since he and Donald are long time friends I am sure trump will listen to him. Mitch needs to go,too. He has not been a good leader for Republicans. They need new blood,too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Less than a week and he is already breaking you into the fact that Obamacare isn't going anywhere. When he realizes that ins premiums will double overnight without the mandate he is going to say "why don't we just go with a single payer plan?" America will say great idea and the repubs will be furious.
    He didn't say he would NOT repeal ObamaCare. Ridiculous, he said he would consider keeping two of its provisions.

    As far as Single payer is concerned, did you know there was another provision in the law that allowed States to opt out of ObamaCare completely IF they set up their own Single payer system ?

    Yup. The State of Vermont hired Jonathan Gruber and Harvard Economist William Hisao to crunch the numbers and see if Single payer was a feasible alternative to the ACA.

    In 2011, " Green Mountain Care ", Vermonts signature Single payer system was signed into law. So what happened to Green Mountain Care ?

    The cost of Green Mountain Care was estimated at 4.3 Billion dollars a year which was almost the size of Vermonts entire State Budget of 4.9 Billion dollars

    In 2017 the States projected revenues were 1.7 Billion dollars and Green mountain care would have required a additional 2.6 billion dollars to be properly funded

    A 151% Tax deficit would have to made up with massive tax increases in order for the law to be funded.

    Well tax increases dont actually increase revenues when you consider the larger impact on investment capital and jobs leaving the State and for some reason this very OBVIOUS consequence of confiscatory tax rates never occured to Jonathan Gruber and William Hsiao.

    The two economist hired by Vermont for 400,000 dollars each to deliver a report on the feasibility of a Single payer system. Nope, the claimed Single payer would save the State over 1.6 Billion over 10 years

    Needless to say it was never implemented

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