View Poll Results: What will happen to the PPACA (Obamacare) not that Trump's been elected?

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  • Nothing: Trump won't be able to change it

    1 5.56%
  • Trump and the republicans will eliminate it

    5 27.78%
  • It will get changes made but remain

    10 55.56%
  • He'll shoot for Universal Health Care at the horror of the republicans

    2 11.11%
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    the "good" prag pragmatic's Avatar
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    Obamacare isn't going particularly well. And the problems are getting worse.

    So the new administration has to do something to stop the bleeding.

    Believe Trump did mention the topic in his "First 100 Days" document. (but am too lazy to go dig it up at the moment.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Lets recall what happened in Massachusetts for a sec. Romney had friends that were healthcare CEOs. When he implemented healthcare reform there he got his friends to keep premiums super low. They agreed. After Romney left office they skyrocketed. Since Trump knows some of these CEOs it wouldn't surprise me if the same happened. They will lower premiums. Probably also get rid of the mandate and let insurance be bought nationwide instead of statewide.
    Mandate goes away, the pre-existing condition clause goes with it. There's no way you can eliminate one and not the other. And the pre-existing condition clause is one of the most popular aspects of the ACA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Mandate goes away, the pre-existing condition clause goes with it. There's no way you can eliminate one and not the other. And the pre-existing condition clause is one of the most popular aspects of the ACA.
    You can do it, you just have to fund it elsewhere.
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    It would be impossible to repeal now, we are in too deep and many medical facilities have made the necessary adjustments to accommodate it, such as technology requirements. You also have millions of Americans who depend on it. I think it may evolve to what Medicare has done...it was far from a perfect program when it first started and look at it today. There is a lot of junk that was included in the bill, such as the mandates, those are easily remedied and could have been done already. The next hurdle are the insurance companies and the premiums. They need someone who cannot be bought off by lobbyist's and can play hard ball with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Obamacare isn't going particularly well. And the problems are getting worse.

    So the new administration has to do something to stop the bleeding.

    Believe Trump did mention the topic in his "First 100 Days" document. (but am too lazy to go dig it up at the moment.)
    Trump's First 100 Days: Here Is What The President-Elect Wants To Do : NPR
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    It would be impossible to repeal now, we are in too deep and many medical facilities have made the necessary adjustments to accommodate it, such as technology requirements. You also have millions of Americans who depend on it. I think it may evolve to what Medicare has done...it was far from a perfect program when it first started and look at it today. There is a lot of junk that was included in the bill, such as the mandates, those are easily remedied and could have been done already. The next hurdle are the insurance companies and the premiums. They need someone who cannot be bought off by lobbyist's and can play hard ball with them.

    Believe that is something the originators of Obamacare were counting on when they passed the bill. And why they weren't too concerned with all the clumsiness/problems the program contained.
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    Like they did before PPACA. As long as the insurance companies are calling the shots we are screwed.

    Are referring the insurance companies withdrawing their participation in the PPACA as calling the shots, then I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    It would be impossible to repeal now, we are in too deep and many medical facilities have made the necessary adjustments to accommodate it, such as technology requirements. You also have millions of Americans who depend on it. I think it may evolve to what Medicare has done...it was far from a perfect program when it first started and look at it today. There is a lot of junk that was included in the bill, such as the mandates, those are easily remedied and could have been done already. The next hurdle are the insurance companies and the premiums. They need someone who cannot be bought off by lobbyist's and can play hard ball with them.
    Perfect summation.

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    All those whiners about rates for insurance haven't sen shit yet. When rumpy ends it capitalism will take Americans to the cleaners and no one will get insurance worth a .
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