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  • More cultural exchange and highly scrutinized creed for citizenship is better for a us future .

    2 50.00%
  • More cultural exchange and less scrutinized creed for citizenship is better for a us future .

    1 25.00%
  • Less cultural exchange and highly scrutinized creed for citizenship is better for a us future .

    1 25.00%
  • Less cultural exchange and less scrutinized creed for citizenship is better for a us future .

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  • Current levels of cultural exchange and of scrutinized creed for citizenship are satisfactory .

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  • More cultural exchange and less annual foreign citizenship is better for a us future .

    1 25.00%
  • More cultural exchange and more annual foreign citizenship is better for a us future .

    2 50.00%
  • Less cultural exchange and more annual foreign citizenship is better for a us future .

    1 25.00%
  • Less cultural exchange and less annual foreign citizenship is better for a us future .

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  • Current levels of cultural exchange and of annual foreign citizenship is satisfactory .

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    Highly Valued Cultural Exchange Versus Highly Scrutinized Creed For Citizenship

    " Highly Valued Cultural Exchange Versus Highly Scrutinized Creed For Citizenship "

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    The title summarizes poll options for these scenarios .

    Select the check box for the following multiple choice statements with which you agree :

    1 . More cultural exchange and highly scrutinized creed for citizenship is better for a us future .
    2 . More cultural exchange and less scrutinized creed for citizenship is better for a us future .
    3 . Less cultural exchange and highly scrutinized creed for citizenship is better for a us future .
    4 . Less cultural exchange and less scrutinized creed for citizenship is better for a us future .
    5 . Current levels of cultural exchange and of scrutinized creed for citizenship are satisfactory for a us future .
    6 . More cultural exchange and less annual foreign citizenship is better for a us future .
    7 . More cultural exchange and more annual foreign citizenship is better for a us future .
    8 . Less cultural exchange and more annual foreign citizenship is better for a us future .
    9 . Less cultural exchange and less annual foreign citizenship is better for a us future .
    10 . Current levels of cultural exchange and of annual foreign citizenship are satisfactory for a us future .


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    A description is needed for the meaning of less or highly scrutinized creed for citizenship .

    The intended meaning of scrutinizing creed for citizenship is to evaluate the creed of an individual to ensure that it is consistent with elements of the us constitution , irrespective and unbiased towards claims for a religious exception when ones creed is inconsistent with elements of social civil agreement within the us constitution .

    For example , if an individual asserts that some other doctrine should replace core foundation elements of the us constitution , then such is regarded as a creed against the us constitution , irrespective and unbiased towards claims for a religious exception , and new citizenship into the social civil contract and basis of the us constitution should not be extended .
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    Would any agree that creeds are founding matters of faith across demographics and many simply do not understand particular motivations or intentions of some organized ideologies ?

    Cultural exchange should be highly valued .

    Alternatively , an extension of citizenship should be highly scrutinized .

    Numbers translate into votes that translate into political policy and statisticians make projections .

    The administrators keep being queried about these demographic experiments , especially while wandering about without a functional diction useful for productive discourse in political science .

    It is understood that citizenship should include agreement with the social civil contract through ones own personal volition which correlates with some manners through creed .

    There are particular elements of the social civil contract that represent core principles of creed which transcends all claimed justifications for omission of contempt based upon theistic faith , whereby a state may act with apatheism .

    A state may evaluate motivations of alien individuals to determine whether their creed wields contempt against those core principles of creed with which citizens agree through their own personal volition , and decline to extend citizenship based upon creed , irrespective of religion .


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    Be wary against any with a creed abdicating to authority , vying for conservatism of state management of individual behaviors , intending to implement a standard for public policy that disavows non aggression principles , that acts against self ownership and self determination of individualism , and that seeks to replace core principles of creed and elements of the constitution agreed upon by citizen members through personal volition .

    Which Percentage of Imams Assert Allegiance Against Non Aggression Principles As Dire

    Should global policy secure US first amendment forms in constitutions of allies ?

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    Okay , as usual , bland without emphasis , see how this seems .

    Does a policy for immigration which places more emphasis on cultural exchange than on granting citizenship make sense ?

    An evaluation of a candidate for citizenship could include apatheistic questions related with whether well agreed upon entitlements of the first amendment should be replaced .

    There is zero responsibility from us citizens to extend citizenship to any individual with a will of commitment to debase the us first amendment and superimpose their own alternative standard of creed .

    The government may address any such motivations apatheistically against any claim from said alien individual for a religious exception .

    It is citizens which determine admission of others as citizens .

    As a solution to solve some conflicts , the following is queried .

    What is the public evaluation of immigration that considers both the levels of admission into citizenship versus levels of admission through cultural exchange ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
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    What is the public evaluation of immigration that considers both the levels of admission into citizenship versus levels of admission through cultural exchange ?

    What do you mean by a policy of immigration that "places emphasis on cultural exchange"?

    Do you know? It sounds mostly imaginary. Also it sounds like you are saying that it currently does this and you think it should change (to either more or less of it, I can't tell). Anyway, if that is what you are saying, it should be pretty easy for you to point to the parts of immigration policy that do this. I can't say it's something I ever considered.

    To me the question sounds like: "Does an immigration policy based on gastronomic exchange make sense?" Well, no, it doesn't make sense. Also, it isn't based on that so it's kind of a silly question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    What do you mean by a policy of immigration that "places emphasis on cultural exchange"?
    Cultural exchange would apply to visitation visas for work , or school , or tourism , or other .


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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    Do you know? It sounds mostly imaginary. Also it sounds like you are saying that it currently does this and you think it should change (to either more or less of it, I can't tell). Anyway, if that is what you are saying, it should be pretty easy for you to point to the parts of immigration policy that do this. I can't say it's something I ever considered.
    My goal is to reiterate that high emphasis should be placed upon belief and acceptance of core tenets of creed upon which the social civil agreement of us constitution is based and upon which us citizens are committed , and that anyone seeking to be a member in the civil agreement , and holding hostile motivations to replace the core tenets of us creed , should not be extended citizenship .

    As principles of creed are transcendent of religion , the creed of any individual seeking citizenship can be evaluated apathetistically , or without consideration of religion , such that if an individual candidate holds a creed seeking to replace core tents upon which us constitution is based , then us citizenship should not be extended , irrespective of any claim for religious exception by the candidate .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
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    Cultural exchange would apply to visitation visas for work , or school , or tourism , or other .
    I suppose a weak argument could be made that the "emphasis" of school visas is cultural exchange, but really I think it's more of a side effect. How can we be sure that the emphasis is "exchanging culture" with other countries, and not just the US educating foreign students on the benefits of living in a country founded on concepts of liberty and democracy? Couldn't the argument here be that we are propagating the American system through education of foreign nationals? Same with tourism.

    But work visas? Isn't that just an effort to fill jobs that currently go unfilled in the US? Agriculture, construction, and even high tech and medical fields have staffing shortfalls that allow for hiring of foreign applicants. Sure, not all from other countries who take those jobs do so "by the book" but many do. Again, couldn't the awarding of work visas be another example of fostering an affinity for the American system, by allowing them to participate in it, many of whom will return to their countries with this knowledge? Sure, there will be some "cultural exchange" but that seems like an added bonus that comes along with using foreign labor.

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    My goal is to reiterate that high emphasis should be placed upon belief and acceptance of core tenets of creed upon which the social civil agreement of us constitution is based and upon which us citizens are committed , and that anyone seeking to be a member in the civil agreement , and holding hostile motivations to replace the core tenets of us creed , should not be extended citizenship .

    As principles of creed are transcendent of religion , the creed of any individual seeking citizenship can be evaluated apathetistically , or without consideration of religion , such that if an individual candidate holds a creed seeking to replace core tents upon which us constitution is based , then us citizenship should not be extended , irrespective of any claim for religious exception by the candidate .
    Yeah, I kind of figured that your goal was (again) some kind of test of religious conviction to determine who should be allowed in and who shouldn't. Your solution is to somehow determine the religious beliefs (creed) of an immigrant without consideration of religion. Pure nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    Yeah, I kind of figured that your goal was (again) some kind of test of religious conviction to determine who should be allowed in and who shouldn't. Your solution is to somehow determine the religious beliefs (creed) of an immigrant without consideration of religion. Pure nonsense.
    So if someone maintains hostility against the us constitution and willfully wishes to replace it with their own system of jurisprudence is that okay with you to allow them to become a citizen ?

    And again , a candidate for citizenship is not entitled to every proclivity of deceit one is willing to ignore about those who are actual citizens .

    A social civil contract would include a fixed formula summarizing core tenets .

    The tenets of creed held by an individual petitioning for us citizenship may be scrutinized against the tenets of creed in the social civil agreement of us citizens , where statements of faith are evaluated irrespective of any possible claim for religious exception , as at such a point religion is a non necessary criteria for evaluating a statement of faith for or against particular tenets .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creed
    A creed (also known as a confession, symbol, or statement of faith) is a statement of the shared beliefs of a religious community in the form of a fixed formula summarizing core tenets.
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    Highly Valued Cultural Exchange Versus Highly Scrutinized Creed For Citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
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    So if someone maintains hostility against the us constitution and willfully wishes to replace it with their own system of jurisprudence is that okay with you to allow them to become a citizen ?
    I suggest you familiarize yourself with the process of becoming a US citizen, applying for a work visa, or applying for refugee status. People who admit to intentions to overthrow the government are already barred, and have always been. Surely this isn't news to you. Or did you mean that we should bar certain people who profess to obey "gods law" before all other laws?

    And again , a candidate for citizenship is not entitled to every proclivity of deceit one is willing to ignore about those who are actual citizens .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creed
    How to you intend to prove that people are being deceitful? Or is your plan to not even bother talking to them, and just bar them from entry based on religious affiliation?
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