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Thread: Would the GOP & Conservatism be better off, if Jeb Bush had won?

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    The alt right racists, sexists, and under educated would never have voted for Jeb with the same gusto and enthusiasm.

    The US would have been better off however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Jeb bush was a dead horse to make sure Clinton won, and if somehow the games didn't work out, he would at least play ball like the rest of the Bush Dynasty.
    Setting aside a potential loss to Hillary...


    If Jeb Bush had won the Presidency.....what would be different from what he did or didn't get done...

    and what Trump has or hasn't gotten done?

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    No

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Oh sure for the short term Jeb would be better, but long term? Doesn't matter. If you had asked me in Mid November of 2008 about the future of the GOP, I would have told you they were done. Putting up someone like Palin as a serious contender? Plus the democrats had an engaging youthful leader and were full of ideas. I would have bet everything I had that the GOP wouldn't gain back either the presidency, House or Congress for at least two decades. I was wrong. The American public has the attention span of gnats.

    Let's just talk policy ....anything Trump has gotten done, that Jeb couldn't?

    AND Jeb doing it in a way that didn't make himself look like a "petulent Man-Baby who goes on Twitter" or a "dangerous maniac who scares or insults or allies"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    No
    Why not?....and try...really, really try....to be a specific as possible.


    Right off? Scratch "Neil Gorsuch" off your list.....he would have been a likely Jeb pick too.

    And also throw in that Jeb wouldn't go on Twitter to rant about his daughter's clothing line or what some Broadway show said about his Veep.

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    Mr Bush wasn't very inspiring or connected to the masses which was a similar election problem for Mrs Clinton. I don't think Mr Bush would have been a good choice as President at this time and would have resulted in a more "treading water" government approach that would have not motivated needed change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    Mr Bush wasn't very inspiring or connected to the masses which was a similar election problem for Mrs Clinton. I don't think Mr Bush would have been a good choice as President at this time and would have resulted in a more "treading water" government approach that would have not motivated needed change.
    Agree. Its obvious the voters are restless and didn't want a status quo or a treading water approach as you say. Question now becomes will that last? Will the voters swing wildly the other way in 2020 or go back to the status quo? Joe Biden was here in NH last night for a speech and the local news showed many that attended and hope he will run in 2020. So its possible we could go back to more steady status quo approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    Mr Bush wasn't very inspiring or connected to the masses which was a similar election problem for Mrs Clinton. I don't think Mr Bush would have been a good choice as President at this time and would have resulted in a more "treading water" government approach that would have not motivated needed change.
    This is the hypothical....

    Jeb wins the GOP Nomination and then Jeb wins the Presidency....


    What has Trump accomplished....that Jeb wouldn't?

    Additionally, are there positive-things-for-conservatism things Jeb would do that Trump can't?


    Also? Are there negative-things-for-conservatism things Jeb would NOT do that Trump HAS done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    The extremists took full control of the Republican Party and here we are.....
    Have you seen the latest budget proposal? Obamacare is fully funded. The EPA is fully funded. Planned Parenthood is fully funded. Sanctuary cities get their money.
    Is that what you call extremism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Have you seen the latest budget proposal? Obamacare is fully funded. The EPA is fully funded. Planned Parenthood is fully funded. Sanctuary cities get their money.
    Is that what you call extremism?
    There's a difference between

    1.what they SAY or run on....which is extreme.


    And 2. when they FAIL to implement their extremism.....because it's not popular.
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